At midseason, the Oregon Ducks are vastly underachieving relative to their championship expectations, leaving a frustrated fan base in an uproar over a team that lacks identity, explosiveness, and grit. Athletic Director Rob Mullens holds heavy culpability for this trajectory, having originally hired Lanning and twice updated his contract—most recently locking in a massive extension featuring a staggering $56.7 million buyout on a head coach whose program appears to be imploding. As the steward of the Ducks' football brand and the multi-billion-dollar enterprise surrounding it, Mullens has a fundamental duty to the fan base and boosters to ensure the product on the field meets elite standards. With the heat turned all the way up in Eugene, Mullens must step out of the shadows, make the hard choices, and intervene to restore Oregon football to the trajectory he was hired to protect.

An Intervention in Autzen

Mullens must step in and sit down with Lanning and Chief of Staff for Oregon Football Marshall Malchow to address the trajectory of the program, holding Lanning accountable for his offensive philosophy. Lanning favored Will Stein's horizontal spread zone blocking RPO system for its risk-averse conflict defender reads, low-interception design and focus on ball security. However, while this horizontal spread RPO system puts up high statistics, elite playoff teams easily scheme against and expose it. The last two years of playoffs showed growing doubts that the horizontal RPO could win a national championship against elite competition, which further undermines the credibility of Dan Lanning's decision to promote an offensive coordinator from within and continue running the same tenets of that system after Will Stein left.

The immediate task is restoring the core Oregon brand: Mullens must force Lanning to pivot to an aggressive, high-potency offensive scheme capable of beating elite postseason competition, even if Lanning must accept higher risk to achieve it. Conservative play-calling and stagnant game management are unacceptable at this price point.

In the multi-billion-dollar enterprise that is now college football, there is no room for playing it safe. Mullens must convey to Lanning that waiting around for passive internal improvement next season is a non-starter.

Long-Term Offensive Identity

Looking ahead, the long-term discussion surrounding Oregon's offense must center on identifying an offensive system that maximizes the program's elite blue-chip recruiting talent. Notably, the last five national championships were won without a horizontal spread zone blocking RPO reliance—highlighting Georgia's pro-style gap blocking system under Todd Monken with a dominant run game and heavy tight end usage, alongside the pro-style spread systems used by Michigan, Ohio State, and Indiana's pro-style spread blending RPO's with gap schemes. Because Oregon is recruiting these exact types of blue-chip skill and offensive line talent—including five-star offensive linemen, star tight ends, dynamic wide receivers, and premier blue-chip quarterbacks—the forward-looking strategy must align with a physical, pro-style or high-powered pro-style spread system.

Furthermore, transitioning to a pro-style or pro-style spread offense significantly enhances recruiting by providing top prospects with the same developmental foundation, playbook terminology, pre-snap checks, and post-snap reads they will utilize in the NFL. Unlike horizontal spread zone blocking RPO schemes that fail to adequately prepare players for the professional level, a pro-oriented system serves as a powerful recruiting tool by positioning Oregon as a premier springboard to Sunday success.

Mandated Changes to the Coaching Staff

The mandate starts with the offensive staff. Lanning must bring in a new, battle-tested offensive coordinator to run the offensive scheme that is chosen to move forward with. They should be given full authority and total freedom to clear house on that side of the ball. This coordinator must have complete autonomy to rebuild the offensive staff with his own hand-picked hires if he so chooses, ensuring alignment across the board.

Transfer Portal Strategy and Roster Plan

Beyond the coaching staff, the leadership group must outline a concrete plan to rebuild the depth chart for next season, starting with a personnel assessment to invite players who do not fit the culture, scheme, or talent threshold to enter the portal. With significant roster turnover looming—including the loss all the starting defensive linemen, star receiver Evan Stewart, and quarterback Dante Moore—Oregon must aggressively deploy its freed-up NIL resources in the transfer market.

To solidify the Ducks as a playoff contender for 2027, all key positions needing upgrade must be identified. The program must target two starting tackles with game experience and a starting center along the offensive line, while aggressively pursuing any elite quarterback who enters the portal as a proven upgrade.

The buyout and contract extensions leave no escape hatch for the administration. If Rob Mullens and Dan Lanning want to protect the investment in Eugene, the realignment of Oregon's offensive philosophy, coaching staff, and portal strategy must begin immediately.

Edited 9 hours ago9 hr by dazednconfused

Just stop, they are not firing Dan, period.

If anything he had great success at a young age. Now he has to deal with professional angst for the first time.

He will be fine.

Lannings fingerprints are all over this defense. He was hired as a defensive coach.

He rightly handed the offenses to Dilly and Stein. They were great hires.

He missed with Meh'. 2 out of 3 ain't bad. Chances are he hits a Home run with whoever is next.

He will have to lick his wounds and move on. Try and learn from this failure.

To call for Lanning's head is premature and irresponsible imo.

Edited 5 hours ago5 hr by Log Haulin

Lanning's regular season tenure since year one.

11-1 Lost Pac12 championship to eventual championship game team.

12-0 Won BIG10 Title game. Lost to eventual National Champs.

11-1 Only loss to eventual National Champs losing again in playoffs to same team.

4-3 Bad OC hire and position coach promotions derail the season.

One bad year is a correctable mistake. You want to see a trainwreck, look no further than SUC where their yearly implosion is in full swing. Fuskies also say hello.

I mentioned on another thread that i cannot support those that advocate for a HC change at Oregon.

This is far fetched and wishful thinking. Unless there are behind the scenes, underlying problems we are unaware of. The AD did not make a mistake in hiring Dl..... He doesn't need to panic and rethink that hire. GEEZ....

Fans panic, not leaders in charge.

Man, this is a tough crowd. Does anyone on this Forum see anything good about the Duck program?

DL won almost 50 games in 4 years.....he has earned some leeway.

I am grateful that he is the Duck coach. And he and his staff can recruit at a high level. The highest level!

Let's look back for a minute......

CK got us to a Natty because defenses had not caught upto his offenses. But by 2013, defenses caught up.

Helfrigh was truly handicapped with sanctions. I love Mark but he drove the Ferrari off the cliff. Did Mark have any previous HC experience? He got us to the Natty with CK's players but could not maintain replacing the players..

Taggert more BS than anything else. Very shallow and no substance.

Cristobal had head coaching experience but with a losing overall record. He started slow but recruited well, made lots of mistakes, learned on the job. He utilized the high profile Duck name and parlayed it into his dream job with his alma mater. MC has improved as a HC and is well positioned to win a Natty.

DL improved recruiting and brought in the most experienced QB's in college history. Back to back and them got DM.

He missed on Seaton in the portal and that was impossible to overcome with freshmen lineman. But DL recognized what was needed. He just missed on Seaton. Is that a fireable mistake? Hell no....

Take out the front 4 on defense, 2 offensive lineman and our TE and this is a freshmen/sophmore team that needs coaching and leadership.

Is it DL's fault that the press, media and Duck fans had such an over inflated projection for this season?

All this chaos makes for great threads and lively discussions in the Forum.

DL made his coaching change decision. The new OC will probably make a few more changes. D&C is spot on that DL and the decision makers need to decide what offense they want to run. Then go get the OC they want.

Then go get the players they want. Oregon is a destination school, not a stepping stone. The player cuboard is not bare.....

Hopefully cooler heads will prevail.

Go Ducks.

Dazed - that was the best post I ever read.

You did not call for an executioner. You identified the problems and outlined the solutions.

There is an old saying in college football: it's not the x's and o's, it's the Jimmy's and Joe's.

Well, it is also about the X's and O's as well.

Same offensive players as last year minus a few O line transfers. The TE position is about the same. Stewart has been back.

I would add that what Indiana and Ohio St figured out concerning Will Stein's offense, so has everybody else in 2026 except for USC (and Portland State).

On the flipside, this year's defense (except for some blown assignments) is what I will call as the BEST DEFENSE OREGON EVER HAD. At least as long as I have been watching the past 20 years.

So I agree that not just a new OC is required, but an offensive minded partner to Dan's defensive prowess. And yes, let him run his side of the show however he wants to.

9 minutes ago, HappyToBeADuck said:

I mentioned on another thread that i cannot support those that advocate for a HC change at Oregon.

This is far fetched and wishful thinking. Unless there are behind the scenes, underlying problems we are unaware of. The AD did not make a mistake in hiring Dl..... He doesn't need to panic and rethink that hire. GEEZ....

Fans panic, not leaders in charge.

Man, this is a tough crowd. Does anyone on this Forum see anything good about the Duck program?

DL won almost 50 games in 4 years.....he has earned some leeway.

I am grateful that he is the Duck coach. And he and his staff can recruit at a high level. The highest level!

Let's look back for a minute......

CK got us to a Natty because defenses had not caught upto his offenses. But by 2013, defenses caught up.

Helfrigh was truly handicapped with sanctions. I love Mark but he drove the Ferrari off the cliff. Did Mark have any previous HC experience? He got us to the Natty with CK's players but could not maintain replacing the players..

Taggert more BS than anything else. Very shallow and no substance.

Cristobal had head coaching experience but with a losing overall record. He started slow but recruited well, made lots of mistakes, learned on the job. He utilized the high profile Duck name and parlayed it into his dream job with his alma mater. MC has improved as a HC and is well positioned to win a Natty.

DL improved recruiting and brought in the most experienced QB's in college history. Back to back and them got DM.

He missed on Seaton in the portal and that was impossible to overcome with freshmen lineman. But DL recognized what was needed. He just missed on Seaton. Is that a fireable mistake? Hell no....

Take out the front 4 on defense, 2 offensive lineman and our TE and this is a freshmen/sophmore team that needs coaching and leadership.

Is it DL's fault that the press, media and Duck fans had such an over inflated projection for this season?

All this chaos makes for great threads and lively discussions in the Forum.

DL made his coaching change decision. The new OC will probably make a few more changes. D&C is spot on that DL and the decision makers need to decide what offense they want to run. Then go get the OC they want.

Then go get the players they want. Oregon is a destination school, not a stepping stone. The player cuboard is not bare.....

Hopefully cooler heads will prevail.

Go Ducks.

The offense this year is as bad as the defense was in 2016. The game had zoomed past Helfrich and he couldn't keep up with it.

It remains to be determined if Dan Lanning can recover. He can recruit both sides of the ball.

He made as bad an OC hire as Helfrich did his DC hire.

I thought this Illinois game was going to be the start of a turn around because Illinois is not that good.

After a good start, the Ducks got blown out 21 - 0. It is going to a tough uphill climb for Lanning.

I think because of his contract and his past success on the field and recruiting, he will get some grace and he will get some time.

As much time as it takes to prove whether or not he is the right fit for the job. But a couple more seasons like this and the writing will be on the wall.

I think there is a good chance the Ducks could lose out the rest of the season. Other teams have figured out how to scheme the Ducks on offense and defense, especially if they have running QBs.

2 hours ago, Cigarstar said:

Just stop, they are not firing Dan, period.

If anything he had great success at a young age. Now he has to deal with professional angst for the first time.

He will be fine.

Where are you coming up with this response? Did you read the whole post?

I never said they were going to fire Lanning; I make the point a $56 million buyout makes firing not an option.

The post concedes Lanning isn't going anywhere and we have some choices to make to shore up the current issues.

57 minutes ago, oregon123 said:

Dazed - that was the best post I ever read.

You did not call for an executioner. You identified the problems and outlined the solutions.

There is an old saying in college football: it's not the x's and o's, it's the Jimmy's and Joe's.

Well, it is also about the X's and O's as well.

Same offensive players as last year minus a few O line transfers. The TE position is about the same. Stewart has been back.

I would add that what Indiana and Ohio St figured out concerning Will Stein's offense, so has everybody else in 2026 except for USC (and Portland State).

On the flipside, this year's defense (except for some blown assignments) is what I will call as the BEST DEFENSE OREGON EVER HAD. At least as long as I have been watching the past 20 years.

So I agree that not just a new OC is required, but an offensive minded partner to Dan's defensive prowess. And yes, let him run his side of the show however he wants to.

Thanks. It appears others think I called for Lanning to be fired and here is my thought on that.

If we can somehow raise 56.7 million to pay the buyout to fire Lanning, then we have become a true blood program without winning a Natty. IMO there is a snowball's chance in hell Lanning is getting fired soon, we are looking at like $47 million buyout after next season and $36 million the year after that.

Mullens should rightly be open to criticism for extending with Lanning a fully guaranteed contract and he should be expected to be all hands on deck to fix the current dumpster fire.

We are missing out on $4 million in playoff money, another $4 million for not hosting a playoff game after a $40 million NIL spend. Lanning making $10.6 million per year should be open to criticism for the current dumpster fire and every other single coaching decision he's ever made.

12 minutes ago, dazednconfused said:

Where are you coming up with this response? Did you read the whole post?

I never said they were going to fire Lanning; I make the point a $56 million buyout makes firing not an option.

The post concedes Lanning isn't going anywhere and we have some choices to make to shore up the current issues.

I think what he's saying is even considering a buyout it's going too far. I can't speak for him, but I'm along that line of thinking.

Personally for me, Life happens. A lot of people have serious problem with life. That's why we're seeing a bunch of bandwagon fans going crazy and acting like Penn State fans or Ohio State fans and Michigan fans.

It has been beyond the pale. Caesar crossed Rubicon and the Republic started to crumble. When you start having civil war because of one poor decision to elevate someone that didn't have the experience means that a lot of people are fragile. Nothing against anybody here, but character is built through losing.

The best part about this forum, is there's been a lot of educated, and informed as much as you can be informed for not being a coach, and thought processes about how to fix the problems.

I haven't seen a lot of character in our fan base. And it should be more than obvious that I'm pretty pissed off. As much as I get pissed off when I see guys looking at that damn quarterback instead of covering his man.

I think the media has had a pretty good feel for how to address the issues. They are asking what his thought process is, they're not attacking Dan Lanning the man.

I may have said this before, but I knew Casey Brooks when she was in school with me, and both Washington and at Oregon. She told me some of the stupidest and the most ridiculous things that fans said about her father. And this was 15 years before he elevated the program to the level it started to become and what it is today.

We don't make the playoffs this year - so what!!! It doesn't define the program under Lanning, and it's certainly isn't anything like it was in the 60s and the seventies and early 80s.

3 years before Penn State fired James franklin, people start to say he was a fraud. They poisoned the well, and every decision he made after that point was considered questionable. Look at Penn State today. They suck. That is exactly what happens when people start to prematurely raise their expectations beyond reality.

I will say this again, Dan Lanning is elevated his team that had no business being in the semifinals last year, despite a lot of talent. They had holes in personnel, they could not figure out what their quarterback was going to do when the quarterback had clear receivers wide open.

Here's the most egregious part of it all: when other program tried to poach Lanning -because he was elevating the program beyond what Cristobal had done-Dan Lanning pledged his loyalty forever. The minute he struggles for what, half a season everybody wants to dump him and dump on him.

I for one, do not want to be a fan like Penn state's, Ohio state's, alabama, or Michigan's. Programs will not elevate to National championship status easily. The programs that have already won a championship, are far better a position to win another one than it is for somebody else to actually elevate like Curt Cignetti did.

All this conjecture about Lanning being a fraud is inaccurate. Do you think Nick Saban won national championships in his first five years? Absolutely not. He was just as stubborn, and he actually sought help from a psychologist to elevate his program. That was at Michigan state, before he won a national championship.

Oregon is one of the institutions that is doing quite well, and will continue to do quite well in this environment. They have the right coach, they found them when nobody knew about him, and they will stick by him because he is the right man for the job.

6 hours ago, dazednconfused said:

At midseason, the Oregon Ducks are vastly underachieving relative to their championship expectations, leaving a frustrated fan base in an uproar over a team that lacks identity, explosiveness, and grit. Athletic Director Rob Mullens holds heavy culpability for this trajectory, having originally hired Lanning and twice updated his contract—most recently locking in a massive extension featuring a staggering $56.7 million buyout on a head coach whose program appears to be imploding. As the steward of the Ducks' football brand and the multi-billion-dollar enterprise surrounding it, Mullens has a fundamental duty to the fan base and boosters to ensure the product on the field meets elite standards. With the heat turned all the way up in Eugene, Mullens must step out of the shadows, make the hard choices, and intervene to restore Oregon football to the trajectory he was hired to protect.

An Intervention in Autzen

Mullens must step in and sit down with Lanning and Chief of Staff for Oregon Football Marshall Malchow to address the trajectory of the program, holding Lanning accountable for his offensive philosophy. Lanning favored Will Stein's horizontal spread zone blocking RPO system for its risk-averse conflict defender reads, low-interception design and focus on ball security. However, while this horizontal spread RPO system puts up high statistics, elite playoff teams easily scheme against and expose it. The last two years of playoffs showed growing doubts that the horizontal RPO could win a national championship against elite competition, which further undermines the credibility of Dan Lanning's decision to promote an offensive coordinator from within and continue running the same tenets of that system after Will Stein left.

The immediate task is restoring the core Oregon brand: Mullens must force Lanning to pivot to an aggressive, high-potency offensive scheme capable of beating elite postseason competition, even if Lanning must accept higher risk to achieve it. Conservative play-calling and stagnant game management are unacceptable at this price point.

In the multi-billion-dollar enterprise that is now college football, there is no room for playing it safe. Mullens must convey to Lanning that waiting around for passive internal improvement next season is a non-starter.

Long-Term Offensive Identity

Looking ahead, the long-term discussion surrounding Oregon's offense must center on identifying an offensive system that maximizes the program's elite blue-chip recruiting talent. Notably, the last five national championships were won without a horizontal spread zone blocking RPO reliance—highlighting Georgia's pro-style gap-blocking system under Todd Monken with a dominant run game and heavy tight end usage, alongside the pro-style spread systems used by Michigan, Ohio State, and Indiana's pro-style spread blending RPO's with gap schemes. Because Oregon is recruiting these exact types of blue-chip skill and offensive line talent—including five-star offensive linemen, star tight ends, dynamic wide receivers, and premier blue-chip quarterbacks—the forward-looking strategy must align with a physical, pro-style or high-powered pro-style spread system.

Furthermore, transitioning to a pro-style or pro-style spread offense significantly enhances recruiting by providing top prospects with the same developmental foundation, playbook terminology, pre-snap checks, and post-snap reads they will utilize in the NFL. Unlike horizontal spread zone blocking RPO schemes that fail to adequately prepare players for the professional level, a pro-oriented system serves as a powerful recruiting tool by positioning Oregon as a premier springboard to Sunday success.

Mandated Changes to the Coaching Staff

The mandate starts with the offensive staff. Lanning must bring in a new, battle-tested offensive coordinator to run the offensive scheme that is chosen to move forward with. They should be given full authority and total freedom to clear house on that side of the ball. This coordinator must have complete autonomy to rebuild the offensive staff with his own hand-picked hires if he so chooses, ensuring alignment across the board.

Transfer Portal Strategy and Roster Plan

Beyond the coaching staff, the leadership group must outline a concrete plan to rebuild the depth chart for next season, starting with a personnel assessment to invite players who do not fit the culture, scheme, or talent threshold to enter the portal. With significant roster turnover looming—including the loss all the starting defensive linemen, star receiver Evan Stewart, and quarterback Dante Moore—Oregon must aggressively deploy its freed-up NIL resources in the transfer market.

To solidify the Ducks as a playoff contender for 2027, all key positions needing upgrade must be identified. The program must target two starting tackles with game experience and a starting center along the offensive line, while aggressively pursuing any elite quarterback who enters the portal as a proven upgrade.

The buyout and contract extensions leave no escape hatch for the administration. If Rob Mullens and Dan Lanning want to protect the investment in Eugene, the realignment of Oregon's offensive philosophy, coaching staff, and portal strategy must begin immediately.

Come On, Man!

It's a fracking game. Stuff happens. In a bad year after a bad offseason the team is 4-3.

You do know that Bama sucked wind for decades, right? How long has it been since SC's blood has been blue? Wisconsin is now in the top 25, should Fickell have been fired?

What kind of season are preseason ranked Michigan, Penn State, UW, and Texas A+M experiencing? What would Oregon's record be with Miami, Notre Dame's, or Texas Tech's schedule?

Who in the last five seasons would have a better record at Oregon than Dan Lanning? Who else could bring talent as he has to Eugene?

Rob Mullens and a football GM have to take control and fix this? Mullens promoted Helfrich and hired Slick.

Of course, you are welcome to your POV, but I'm happy that we're not sharing a foxhole.

Stuff happens.

Mike, I didn't call Dan a fraud or for him to be fired. But I reserve the right to critical analysis of him and his decisions. He is a good coach, but he is not beyond reproach.

Lanning has had a roster ranking around the top five in blue-chip ratio the last three years, he 100% should have that team in the semis last year, and he should have had his team competitive in the game for the over $10 million he got paid.

This year's implosion coupled with the blowout playoff losses to OSU and Indiana where we were clearly out coached and not competitive, make it fair to question Lanning has the goods to get us to the top of the mountain. It's evident right now that answer is no, that's just my own critical analysis of him, it's not personal.

Edited 3 hours ago3 hr by dazednconfused

The very title of the thread suggests Dan should be fired but we're stuck with him due to the size of his buyout. So it seems like just a play on semantics to say it didn't call for him to be fired. Maybe that wasn't the true intent, but that's how I read it as well.

Dan's record and accomplishments in the first few years of being a very young HC are extremely impressive. Yes he has great resources, but those alone do not make a top 5 team. This season is actually proof of just how fragile things can be at the elite level of the sport. He was knocking on the door in just his 3rd and 4th seasons as a HC. Now he has a hiccup with a bad hire and a down season and the sharks immediately start to circle.

I totally agree that he's made some decisions that warrant criticism. I've questioned some of them myself on this forum. But in my mind he's built a lot of equity and I see it as a long-term relationship. I can't get on-board with any talk of firing him at this point or the foreseeable future. To me it's like the difference between telling my wife she spends too much money or needs to stop dinging her car in parking lots vs telling her that the only reason we're still married is that I can't afford to divorce her. Totally different plain.

52 minutes ago, dazednconfused said:

Mike, I didn't call Dan a fraud or for him to be fired. But I reserve the right to critical analysis of him and his decisions. He is a good coach, but he is not beyond reproach.

Lanning has had a roster ranking around the top five in blue-chip ratio the last three years, he 100% should have that team in the semis last year, and he should have had his team competitive in the game for the over $10 million he got paid.

This year's implosion coupled with the blowout playoff losses to OSU and Indiana where we were clearly out coached and not competitive, make it fair to question Lanning has the goods to get us to the top of the mountain. It's evident right now that answer is no, that's just my own critical analysis of him, it's not personal.

I'm not mad at you. You Absolutely have a right to vent. You made valid points. You're not the type of Oregon fan I am talking about.

Lanning does not have a top five group of players. Just like Penn State didn't have a top five group of players last year. That is a big misconception.

I want you to go back and look at Miami the first month of last year. Our Ducks have NEVER looked that good. Even in 2019- Oregon's best defense ever.

This is my opinion, Indiana, Georgia, Alabama Ohio State and Texas all have much better talent than we have. And I mean much. They perform better, and all but Texas have been consistent. And Miami has an offensive that is damn near unstoppable. That is six teams right there that are better.

Potential isn't the same thing as performance. Out of all the contenders this year, and I counted seven, Oregon was the least likely to win a title. We have not performed close to how well the other six have on the field against elite talent.

Everybody put on the hype that evidence contradicted. I've been saying for a long time, Lanning is elevating his team beyond it's talent capacity. Some people still can't accept that.

Look at Dante Moore in the heat of battle. Everybody said last year she better come back because he has work to do. That was the first sign.

The defensive line, in both playoff blowouts played poorly. That was the second sign. The offensive line played worse. Third sign.

There are dozens of NFL teams that overpay their players. What makes you think that's not going to happen in college football? And that is not a criticism of you. That's rhetorical.

Penn State is learning what it means to be an unrealistic fan base. It's going to take 5 years before they match what James Franklin did that at that program.

We bought an unreasonable point of view. It is that simple. It is time to pay attention to how difficult it is to win a National championship. It is time to correctly assess talent based on performance.

It is time to allow a coach to evolve completely into excellence.

Edited 2 hours ago2 hr by Mike West

I am not happy this yr.. I am absolutely pro Dan Lanning and doubt we could have hired a better coach at the time or for these time.. I hope he will hire hire experienced assistants and coordinators... I hope our booster are strong enough to realize that in today's world of Nil, money talks. We are in Oregon thankfully, but not LA or Atlanta or Dallas etc... we just may have to pay more... Location Location.

13 minutes ago, Mike West said:

I'm not mad at you. You Absolutely have a right to vent. You made valid points. You're not the type of Oregon fan I am talking about.

Lanning does not have a top five group of players. Just like Penn State didn't have a top five group of players last year. That is a big misconception.

I want you to go back and look at Miami the first month of last year. Our Ducks have NEVER looked that good. Even in 2019- Oregon's best defense ever.

This is my opinion, Indiana, Georgia, Alabama Ohio State and Texas all have much better talent than we have. And I mean much. They perform better, and all but Texas have been consistent. And Miami has an offensive that is damn near unstoppable. That is six teams right there that are better.

Potential isn't the same thing as performance. Out of all the contenders this year, and I counted seven, Oregon was the least likely to win a title. We have not performed close to how well the other six have on the field against elite talent.

Everybody put on the hype that evidence contradicted. I've been saying for a long time, Lanning is elevating his team beyond it's talent capacity. Some people still can't accept that.

Look at Dante Moore in the heat of battle. Everybody said last year she better come back because he has work to do. That was the first sign.

The defensive line, in both playoff blowouts played poorly. That was the second sign. The offensive line played worse. Third sign.

There are dozens of NFL teams that overpay their players. What makes you think that's not going to happen in college football? And that is not a criticism of you. That's rhetorical.

Penn State is learning what it means to be an unrealistic fan base. It's going to take 5 years before they match what James Franklin did at that program.

We bought an unreasonable point of view. It is that simple. It is time to pay attention to how difficult it is to win a National championship. It is time to correctly assess talent based on performance.

It is time to allow a coach to evolve completely into excellence.

Terrific post, Mike, thanks.

Miami's O has played extremely well against nothing-burger competition. No. 14 (?) Wake Forest that won in double OT at Purdue shut down the Miami O in the 2nd half of the game in Winston-Salem.

Miami's D was shredded by FSU and former Stanford and Auburn QB Ashton Daniels. A terrible holding call against FSU prevented the game from going into the 3rd OT.

Phil Steele ranks Miami's SOS as the 61st most 'difficult' in the nation. Steele ranks Oregon's SOS the 20th most difficult. With Miami's schedule, I think Oregon would still be in the PO hunt.

Very few people thought Oregon's schedule would be difficult before playing at Ohio State. Wrong.

No. 21 Northwestern's SOS is ranked 14th by Steele. No team is being screwed over by the coaches and the AP voters more than NW. Six 2-loss SEC teams with 'worse losses' than NW's loss at No. 4 Indiana by two points are ranked ahead of 1-loss Northwestern.

The AP Poll is ridiculously SEC-centric. USC loses to No. 25 Wisconsin on the road and drops from 16 to 31. Iowa loses a rivalry game on the road to a 2-loss Minnesota team and drops from 15 to 26.

Roster rankings are based on recruiting and portal rankings that are a best guess. Texas WR Cam Coleman, with Archie throwing to him, was going to replace J. Smith as the best WR in CFB, right? This was the same guy who dropped close to 10% of the passes thrown to him while playing for Auburn.

CFB SOS varies significantly nationally and within P4 conferences and is not properly calculated; ditto for roster rankings.

I see no viable coaching candidate who, in his first four seasons, would have won more games than Dan Lanning. Would have defeated Ohio State in Eugene in 2024 and kept the regular-season game against Indiana in 2025 within one TD.

Oregon was blown out in the Rose Bowl and in the Peach Bowl by teams with better talent who were better prepared by more experienced head coaches. Ditto for the two losses to UW in 2023. Will Stein and Tosh Lupoi were on hand in 2024 and 2025.

Thank you for making note of the roster rankings. Oregon has a talented roster but not on the level of Ohio State or Georgia.

To be a CFB champ today, a team has to win 3 or 4 games in a row against top competition. The quality of contending teams' rosters and the depth of the rosters will be tested. I think Miami had a better roster, especially on defense last season, and lost two regular-season games.

Perhaps Ryan Day should be fired? After winning a championship in 2024, before defeating Indiana by a foot in Week 7 of this season, Day was 0-3 in the last three games vs. ranked opponents. This is with better talent than Dan has on hand.

Perhaps Mario would have brought similar talent to Eugene, but would he have won more games? In the ACC, Mario has a superior roster advantage. The kind of advantage Riley had at Oklahoma.

Every person and every entity suffers misfortune. How you and they respond is what matters.

17 minutes ago, Mike West said:

I'm not mad at you. You Absolutely have a right to vent. You made valid points. You're not the type of Oregon fan I am talking about.

Lanning does not have a top five group of players. Just like Penn State didn't have a top five group of players last year. That is a big misconception.

I want you to go back and look at Miami the first month of last year. Our Ducks have NEVER looked that good. Even in 2019- Oregon's best defense ever.

This is my opinion, Indiana, Georgia, Alabama Ohio State and Texas all have much better talent than we have. And I mean much. They perform better, and all but Texas have been consistent. And Miami has an offensive that is damn near unstoppable. That is six teams right there that are better.

Potential isn't the same thing as performance. Out of all the contenders this year, and I counted seven, Oregon was the least likely to win a title. We have not performed close to how well the other six have on the field against elite talent.

Everybody put on the hype that evidence contradicted. I've been saying for a long time, Lanning is elevating his team beyond it's talent capacity. Some people still can't accept that.

Look at Dante Moore in the heat of battle. Everybody said last year she better come back because he has work to do. That was the first sign.

The defensive line, in both playoff blowouts played poorly. That was the second sign. The offensive line played worse. Third sign.

There are dozens of NFL teams that overpay their players. What makes you think that's not going to happen in college football? And that is not a criticism of you. That's rhetorical.

Penn State is learning what it means to be an unrealistic fan base. It's going to take 5 years before they match what James Franklin did that at that program.

We bought an unreasonable point of view. It is that simple. It is time to pay attention to how difficult it is to win a National championship. It is time to correctly assess talent based on performance.

It is time to allow a coach to evolve completely into excellence.

With all due respect, I was wrong, Lanning has the 6th rated blue-chip talent composite three years ago. If Lanning doesn't have a top five group of players that's squarely on him and his staff's development of those players. Lanning has lacked for nothing when it comes to facilities, support, NIL or his own paycheck.

When I look at these roster blue-chip charts below it is shocking how Lanning's teams have gotten so dismantled by OSU and Indiana in the last two playoffs, we didn't look competitive. We showed up and didn't look ready to play, were out coached, and looked light years from winning a Natty.

We have the #3 rated roster for this season and just lost to the 51st ranked roster with a backup Frosh QB making his first start, in what world is that not unacceptable? Hamptons defense gave up 225 rushing yards to a one-dimensional team; I haven't even dug into the critical analysis of that debacle since I'm having a 2022 Beavers comeback win PST event.

I'm not asking the guy to win it all, but he sure the hell shouldn't be getting run out of the playoffs in embarrassing style with all the resources he has behind him. He should be in the playoffs every year and competitive if he gets bounced, there is no shame in that.

This season's regression will pass but he needs to do better than he has been at Oregon. The question going forward is what offensive scheme Lanning is going to run going forward and what is he going to do to address not being remotely competitive against elite teams in the playoffs.

Those are fair questions when you have a coach with a $56.7 million buyout, top facilities, a huge NIL budget, and an Elite roster every year-the excuses run out on why you're getting blown out in the playoffs and why this year's team has tanked.

I'm sure Phil has been on the phone to Mullens these same questions, there has been historical investment made in Lanning's Program-and the ROI is unacceptable. Oregon has gone all in on Lanning in every way and he signed the guaranteed contract deal, its' on him to deliver excellence for kind of coin.

14 minutes ago, dazednconfused said:

With all due respect, I was wrong, Lanning has the 6th rated blue-chip talent composite three years ago. If Lanning doesn't have a top five group of players that's squarely on him and his staff's development of those players. Lanning has lacked for nothing when it comes to facilities, support, NIL or his own paycheck.

When I look at these roster blue-chip charts below it is shocking how Lanning's teams have gotten so dismantled by OSU and Indiana in the last two playoffs, we didn't look competitive. We showed up and didn't look ready to play, were out coached, and looked light years from winning a Natty.

We have the #3 rated roster for this season and just lost to the 51st ranked roster with a backup Frosh QB making his first start, in what world is that not unacceptable? Hamptons defense gave up 225 rushing yards to a one-dimensional team; I haven't even dug into the critical analysis of that debacle since I'm having a 2022 Beavers comeback win PST event.

I'm not asking the guy to win it all, but he sure the hell shouldn't be getting run out of the playoffs in embarrassing style with all the resources he has behind him. He should be in the playoffs every year and competitive if he gets bounced, there is no shame in that.

This season's regression will pass but he needs to do better than he has been at Oregon. The question going forward is what offensive scheme Lanning is going to run going forward and what is he going to do to address not being remotely competitive against elite teams in the playoffs.

Those are fair questions when you have a coach with a $56.7 million buyout, top facilities, a huge NIL budget, and an Elite roster every year-the excuses run out on why you're getting blown out in the playoffs and why this year's team has tanked.

I'm sure Phil has been on the phone to Mullens these same questions, there has been historical investment made in Lanning's Program-and the ROI is unacceptable. Oregon has gone all in on Lanning in every way and he signed the guaranteed contract deal, its' on him to deliver excellence for kind of coin.

Again valid points. Let me be blunt. We were not going to win a title this year. Didn't matter if Nick Saban, Ryan Day, Curt Cignetti or Kirby Smart was coaching.

This group does not perform at the level required to win a title. At their best. There is ONE player along the line of scrimmage (both sides) on par with the Elite talent nationwide. One.

I've watched Texas, Ohio St, Indiana, Georgia, and Miami this year. We don't measure up and that is the cream. We had problems with Iowa and Wisconsin last year.

We don't have the players. It's pretty simple. You can stem the tide, but you can't stop the tide. That is where we are.