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Mike West

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  1. I understand your sentiment when it comes to the Snake. But did MC really end things much better? In addition, no Snake, no MC. No narrative about recruiting top talent to Eugene. You don't have to give WT props, but it is pretty difficult to deny he catapulted OBD into a recruiting powerhouse. My opinion of course
  2. Hmmm, I respectfully disagree that Mario proved Oregon was a recruiting destination. The SNAKE said it and proved it-twice ( until he, like MC took some of those recruits with him). Furthermore, there should be no doubt in anyone's mind that Taggert made a fool out of himself because he certainly would have reached the playoffs with a healthy Justin Herbert the year he coached and had he been astute enough to stay. Thus, in my mind, that FIFTY POINTS A GAME (which might as well been fifty thousand pounds a game compared to MC), with a pretty good defense to boot cost the Snake ANY opportunity to return to the P5 as a HC. It was obvious to anyone as ambitious as the Snake was, that he should have stayed in Eugene. Might I also remind you Helfrich had a playoff victory Chip does not have, as well a Natty appearance. Helfrich didn't sustain what Chip started, but he actually led the team to the Natty directly ( he personally motivated the defense to ramp up and play to their level of talent after that fiasco loss to Arizona). Helfrich stepped up, and he deserves credit for it. MC blew an opportunity the Snake would not have duplicated, and Helfrich did not commit: inheriting so much talent it was a crime he didn't lead OBD to the playoffs ( three times at that). We seem to judge MH and WT on personality more than their actual contributions to the program. Chip was (and still is to some degree) pretty damn arrogant ( I still like the guy, I think he's a football genius). So, while MC left the school stocked with talent, he had little choice but to leave because he certainly would have soiled his reputation had he stayed this year. I actually hope MC succeeds. I fear MC will crash and burn just like Taggart, because his ego was rewarded despite his B minus performance here in Eugene. (Rich Brooks left the program in great shape, Mike Belotti built on it, and Chip started a standard that designated that grade an automatic fail. Taggart is where he belongs, and we will have to wait in order to determine if MC can handle a power P5 program. I personally believe we have been very fortunate to be in the hunt for a title for so long, and I am very grateful for that- frustrations and all. It is difficult to win a National Championship. That is why the journey is just as important as the destination.
  3. I wish Montana, Aikman, Marino, and Jim Kelly could still play. I wish Staubach, Bradshaw, Griese, and Unitas could still play. I would have loved to see Otto Graham play. Legends are never unwelcome in my book. And frankly, Tom Brady is better than all but a handful of players this very second. The newbies are good...very good. But they're not Jedi Warriors yet Skywalker. Long live Tom Brady. He definitely still has it. As usual, he needs blazing speed at WR, because he still gets them the ball. For once, I like watching Darth Vader anihilating Padawans. That's my kind of villain ( if you haven't figured it out yet, I'm not fond of many young bucks coming up these days...they're arrogant, disrespectful, and don't show love for the game). Long live the era that instilled fan worship of football. Tom Brady is a throwback to those dudes.
  4. A fun quote of mine when I see an upset like that:. CAN YOU SAY MONEY LINE!!!!!!!!! If you would have bet OBD to win that day, you would have won 12 times the amount you bet.
  5. Nothing ticks me off more than entitled athletes. Especially an unproven commodity. The NBA and NFL players are bad enough. They talk about the game being a business, but more than enough of them are broke when they retire. What a joke. The guys that really earn their paychecks are the men and women that entertain us while we watch the games ( like Joe Buck and Troy Aikman for example). At some point, college football fans are going to say "enough". Attendance has been falling the past three years, and inflation is going to treat it's ugly head in earnest this fall. Interesting times. Where's Jon Joseph and his point spread picks when you need them?
  6. I love your takes my resident national expert. It's going to be an interesting year. I like my Kool Aide apple, lemon or lime though lol. Let's hope we don't have to spike it much.
  7. I can barely remain a gentleman after reading that.
  8. This year's schedule is manageable. We are more talented than everyone but Georgia. Every other game is ours to lose. And I'd say that even if we faced both Utah and BYU at their place. Call me Kool Aide Mike. I'm not afraid of this schedule. Or the coaching ( really, really take a look at how Lanning put so much pressure on QB Young that he looked like QB Bennet in the first Bama- UGA matchup). We have hypersonic speed at WR. The best front seven in the PAC12, the best TEs in the conference, the most talented secondary ( just very green). We have a QB that's faced far better defenses than even Utah put us through last year. We have the best OL in the conference. There is so much talent on this team that it would take Mario Cristobal to ruin our shot at a conference title ( though he did ruin three playoff berths). I just don't have time to show what I see in an analysis article. But I see it. I get all the angrier because I truly grasp the degree Mario Cristobal blew three playoff berths. People think of the flaws on offense. I see just as much on defense. Lanning is playing Rope a Dope. His defense should be stellar this year.
  9. Without looking at other posts initially, I am emphatically opposed to starting Jamal Hill and Steve Stephens. To be as diplomatic as I can, they are extremely incapable of covering elite talent, and thus a serious liability to the team. If you like burnt toast, those two should be on your menu. Again, in trying to be kind, but I've seen both five to ten yards behind WRs on their way to scoring TDs on a very routine basis. If you want to win the conference, those two must ride pine. I've seen a tiny sample of Dillingham at Memphis, FSU, and with Bo Nix. I'm pleased so far. Yes, he does set his game plan to the strengths of his starters. What he gives Thompson in the Spring Game will tell me if TT is truly elite, or bought(cough , cough- to get access to those elite camps) his stature. I happen to believe TT is talented, but was reduced to mincemeat in MC's "I don't know how to use a QB" offense. Nix concerns me in one area- consistently tearing defenses up. If Nix starts consistently living up to his five star billing, then he can even beat UGA (a tall task, but when he is on his game he is a serious playmaker). Hill and Stephens will ruin any title chances-they really are that bad. I believe the talent on offense is good enough to do some damage. Will they execute? I don't know. I subscribe to the Bill Walsh (49er offense) philosophy. Script the first ten to fifteen plays to see what the defense wants to do, then anihilate their plan. In other words, football is a game of setting opponents up to fail. Let them pick their poison, then give them an overdose that is considered criminal. Finally, I think coach Lanning got a look at how you can develop an inferior QB into a better winner than even his thoroughbred (hopefully he looks at things as developing the best of all three QBs so they carve up any defense they face).
  10. Even this forum recognizes AB's limitations. Yet in the second half of the Alamo Bowl, he threw fade routes to backups for TDs against Oklahoma's starters. What does that tell you? It tells me the coaches spent less time solving the challenges the offense had than trying to run the offense they wanted. It tells me people look at limitations rather than finding solutions. AB has a strong arm, he isn't accurate on a consistent basis, but he constantly led early scoring drives. What almost always happened after that was the coaches expanded the playbook in ways that didn't match his skills. But we saw at the end of the year a skill NONE of us thought he had ( despite it being clear he had a strong enough arm). AB won ten games messing up things. Imagine what he would do with a little help from his coaches. Georgia won a Natty with a QB that resembles the kind of skills AB has. Neither QB is good enough to take over a game. That means it is the coach's responsibility to take over the game. AB performed to the level he was given. Not to the level he was capable of growing into. And yes, if you start WRs that don't possess separation skills, you better design that offense to maximize THEIR skills. That clearly didn't happen last year. Anybody think we don't beat Utah last year with our frosh WRs after watching tOSU scorch their secondary ( and the way we torched OU's DBs)? Players will play to the level you coach them. Which means we don't have many elite coaches in college football.
  11. That's because they threw in the seams and mostly to TEs. The LB coverage was so horrid that you didn't even need WRs to convert third downs.
  12. He'd still dominate today. Kids don't play basketball today, they play playground ball. I would love to be able to see the prime NBA eras (there are two- the late sixties till the early seventies, and the Magic/Bird years till the Thomas/ Jordan years). Those players would chew up any other era like the US Olympic teams obliterated the world. Walton would thunder dunk on ANY current forward or center- and he's half as athletic. He'd simply post up, back em up, and shove the ball down the net. I don't even bother watching the garbage posing as basketball today, I can't watch because the women - who aren't as fast,strong or coordinated- are better basketball players. It's disgusting to watch the men after seeing the women ( and I wish they were as athletic because THEY WOULD BEAT THE MEN EASILY). Walton dominated an ultra dominant UCLA squad. No way the NBA stops a healthy Bill Walton.
  13. No no no. They just dropped those passes. More than fifty drops is not a QB problem. That is lack of focus. Review the tape. Those were not five thousand mile an hour passes. They were catchable passes. they lost six games, and a solid three were due to to those drops. Furthermore, Herbert was hitting wide open guys. Not in traffic, truck sized wide open guys. There were thousands of complaints about poor play calling. Well fifty dropped passes tells me not only were the plays very good, so was the coaching. I'd like a very solid, evidence backed explanation on how fifty guys that were not only wide open , but the so called miscoached QB delivered the ball in the bread basket to said WIDE OPEN WRs was evidence Herbert wasn't getting developed. And FYI, JH throws the same type of passes using the same footwork in the NFL as he did in college- just look at his highlights reels). It is hard to prove without showing some bias, because it takes hours of research. But JH's NFL highlights look like his college highlights. The TD throw on the run in the UW game to Jaylen Redd ( which by the way WAS sixty miles an hour) look no different that his deep throws to Keenan Allen. Even the way he eludes sacks and runs for yardage look the same. Look at the Nebraska game. Those were sixty mile an hour throws. So I completely disagree. Execution was more of a problem than his coaching ( my evidence- fifty dropped passes compared to the same type of passes the year before that weren't dropped). People are going to disagree with this, but Arroyo and the Snake unleashed JH better than Chip and Helfrich unleashed their QBs, and Fifty points a game backs that up. And how is it JH is the best modern QB Oregon has had in the NFL? He didn't do it on natural talent alone ( read 50 points a game with a highlight reel that year that looks exactly like his NFL highlights).
  14. And the refs called that obvious fumble an incomplete pass. That, the interception that was " incomplete" and the uncalled tackle saved Auburn's hide that day. Everybody knows we got robbed. And ESecPN had the nerve to say they were the more physical team. To my grave... Until God shows me Darren Thomas limping off the field the way Scam Newton did( and Thomas got hit hard also)... I will never concede Auburn was better or even close to as physical the way we beat up Newton ( anybody remember that alligator arm incomplete pass he threw because he was about to get hit again?). We knocked the snot off Newton's face and they had the audacity to say the Tigers were more physical. We need to deliver some Clubber Lang love this year. Like the fiercest defense Chip has ever had in his career.
  15. Yeah, I was pretty ticked at him too at the time. As well as the Corvallis kid (Talanoa Hufanga). I still welcome him because he will have a very positive impact on the program. Besides, it's been awesome seeing kids learn the impact of snubbing Oregon ( I remember a recent highly touted DL frosh from California that signed with tOSU last year and his Buckeyes lost in Columbus to our "lowly" Ducks- what a facial that was!)
  16. This kid really knows how to get open. He'll teach the young guys how to use their speed properly, and I suspect he will be the go to guy in clutch situations. A very sound move by the coaching staff.
  17. Very interesting indeed. When I look at the Spring Games around the country , I'm looking at the intangibles more than ever. Can a QB throw the fade route effectively? Will the OC show some of the his offense on third and Long situations? Can a LB find a receiver downfield? Can a safety shut down a post route. Does the defense seal the edge consistently? Coaches go vanilla, but they can't hide their talent level. They can't mask a QB that can only throw twenty yards. Or a running back's inability to outrun the defense at the second level. I agree the tournaments the high school kids go to don't reflect their actual abilities. They won't see the same collection of talent they get at the tournaments, and frankly most OCs don't have much game themselves. The best way to help a QB succeed is to give defenses conflict plays. A LB and CB must pick their poison. Much like the zone read run game. But it doesn't happen. Too often, a frosh is seeing NFL caliber playbooks with so many formations to learn it takes months to get that simple aspect down Passing well involves moving defenders where you want them. The back seven should be vacating areas trying to cover receivers. I see far too many routes running straight into coverages. I see Corners ten yards from the LOS, but the OC sends the WR right to him instead of calling a dog whistle audible to get that WR the ball in one step. So part of it is mental/cerebral. Most of it to me is taking what they give you, and setting up for the adjustments. Ummm, that would be sequential pass routes. Like a corner- post ( protected by a slot receiver running a seam route), or a post corner ( again, occupy the safety inside so the post corner is man to man.). There are so many facets to teach, but some of it is finding your QB's range of effectiveness first. Braxton Burmeister will kill you inside. So you set him up by feigning deep outside routes to keep a defense honest. I could tell Georgia spent ample time getting Stetson Bennet massive reps in practice throwing deep and outside. His timing was much better, and he was throwing not thinking. That was purely a month of muscle memory reps. Michigan and Bama we're not expecting that ( neither was I quite honestly). So yes, most five star freshman aren't prepared. How can a high school coach get him NFL ready? Only the high profile high schools do that. Combine that with college coaches throwing them forty formations, and sixty defensive fronts and coverages to study, what do you think will happen? A safety is supposed to cover half the deep side of the field. So force him to pick a receiver to cover. It's that simple. Corners tell QBs within five yards how they're going to cover their "area"- whether it's zone or man coverage. Everyone thought AB couldn't throw deep. He didn't practice it obviously. Until the bowl game that is. Once you know you can beat a corner, you take the safety out of the situation. I think most coordinators over think it. Thus they force kids to as well. Watch the last drive of this year's Super Bowl. It was the QB and his best receiver all the way down the field. They schemed everything for their best guy. That is like us saying to each other, FishDuck, get in the way of the linebackers so 30Duck can get open. Fifty eight minutes of Rhodes Scholar ball succumbed to street ball. Think about that the next time you see a QB struggle in an offense.
  18. I like your ideas better... Merge with the Big12. Expand the footprint. That garners better time slots for games, gets more eyeballs per game, and gives the less successful programs a shot at avoiding a super conference of blue bloods. I also liked that ideas of going the way European Soccer leagues run things. That gives the G5 schools a shot of playing in the P5(P4?) conferences when they win their conferences ( actually their Division). The bottom teams from the major conferences ( in each respective division) fall to the lower division until they with that division. In addition, it would be great if the power conferences found ways to augment the revenue stream of the lower divisions ( an actual playoff would be better in my mind). When ESPN started televising the MAC and the other G5 conferences I thought that was so cool. It gave exposure to most athletes without diminishing the quality of the major conferences. I don't want to see that go away.
  19. I hate the Fuskies as much as anybody ( those nauseating Rose Bowl chants in Autzen when they were dominant still makes my blood boil). That said, I would much rather watch us beat a powerhouse Fusky team than the lame version we've seen since Peterson left. Nothing satisfies me more than ruining Fusky title hopes. Not to mention, when the Fuskies are relevant, so is the conference. If we want a better TV revenue stream, USC and UW must be powerhouse programs. They get as many if not more eyeballs nationwide than we do.
  20. Haven't had the chance to review either Lanning's defense or Dillingham's offense yet. That's going to take some time. I have looked at Bo Nix a bit. But not when he was with Dillingham. Interesting player. Need more tape to solidify my initial thoughts however. I'm excited. I see a couple of strategies in play already, but the Spring Game will tell me much more.
  21. My thing has always been score 42 and yield 17 ON AVERAGE. That gets you to the teams that do the same, which usually results in a 28-24 type game when those kinds of teams face each other. Then game management, planning and execution make all the difference. Bama scored forty plus on UGA the first time because UGA changed their scheme. Lanning and company went right back to their regular scheme and forced Bryce Young into unforced errors. People say losing both top WRs hurt Bama. I disagree. Before WR Anderson left, UGA forced Bama into FGs. Before he was injured. You need explosive plays ( plays that gain 15 yards or more) to score often against regular teams ( put the average teams out of their scoring capabilities early). You must have effective plays to deal with an elite defense. Hence a combo of sequential plays (also known as constraint plays in the coaching world) that feed off the explosive plays; and clutch plays that move the chains on third down. The sequential plays force elite defenses to read and react instead of pressure and force mistakes. I think I said it better in this article: In any event, whoever ends up starting at QB must be accurate enough to handle the most elite of defenses. If you watched the entire set of NFL playoff games, you recognize even the best schemes on offense are dead on arrival if your quarterback isn't accurate enough times to score points.
  22. Well the first move is to get the linebackers to cover TEs in the seams and WRs crossing over the middle by MAKING THEM FIND THOSE RECEIVERS INSTEAD OF LOOKING AT THE QB THE QB ENTIRE PLAY. Next, simply keep Stephens and Hill off the field. They are too slow to cover slot receivers, and they aren't smart enough to shut down routes in the area of coverage they're responsible for. If I had time to show this in an article, I'd have dozens of examples. I was not fond if the secondary coaches during MC's stint. It was bad enough the linebackers were horrible. But the secondary allowed so much space BY Design it made the linebackers look like Ronnie Lott and Troy Palomalu by comparison. I suspect pass coverage will vastly improve. If amateur Mike West can figure it out, one of CFB's best former DCs can.
  23. Clemson would be just another Oklahoma had they rectified to Funimate their conference instead of acquire enough talent to compete with Alabama. In other words, they looked beyond their conference and completed nationally for recruits. Look at them now. They're simply another Notre Dame. Michigan is now poised to replace Clemson now that they have shed the Ohio State monkey. Which means a very weak PAC12 will not bolster our shot ( do you really believe we lose to Stanford and hold our position with the Cincinnati narrative and Bama defeating Georgia? Utah lost to BYU, and had two losses, do they weren't going to bolster our status). Beyond next year, without a Georgia type team to bolster our eye test credibility, our "championship worthy" conference drags is down if USC starts down and Utah doesn't go undefeated. Dominating a weak conference is just Norte Dame going undefeated in the eyes of the playoff committee. The SEC West and the Big Ten East are going to capture eyeballs ( and if we get another Baylor- Oklahoma State narrative in the Big 12, forget about the conference of Olympic Champions.). We need four Pete Carroll and Chris Peterson type teams. USC elevates the entire conference. They still have to catch us.
  24. Which was on display yesterday in the Super Bowl. The Rams schemed to pressure "Mr. Home Alone" very well yesterday in the second half. Lanning disrupted Bruce Young's rhythm much the same in the Natty. Our boys on defense even commented on Twitter. We don't have Thibs anymore, so we'll need multiple schemes. Seal the edge, stop the run. Spring the edge, pressure up the middle. I see that coming. Can't wait until spring.
  25. Clemson went toe to toe with the big boys by Recruiting first. They dominated the conference because they were preparing for the big boys. Contrast that with Oklahoma, who has Not crushed it nationally. They dominate Texas. USC under Carroll didn't dominate just California, they dominated Nationally. New Jersey, Texas, and yes the Southern hotbed. Meanwhile, the second best team in the conference- OBD- got their share of elite players from guess where- CALIFORNIA. WE DIDN'T ESTABLISH A NATIONAL FOOTPRINT. Rip Van Wrinkle is awake. The sleeping giant sleeps no more. Not only must they win, they have to recruit effectively across the nation. Though the majority of MC's roster consists of California players, we have young men from TWENTY TWO other states. We are a national recruiting power. California cannot win a Natty alone. Even Pete Carroll recognized that. Ohio State, Bama, Georgia, and yes Clemson pull from outside their region because you can't get them all in the place you reside. We get enough from California. But let's face it, they don't grow Big Boys in California like they do everywhere else. Let's see how many Bubbas get drafted from California (high school players) this April. Let's compare that with the rest of the country. I believe you'll find We're going to have to get some corn fed young uns from all over the country. We're fine. Nothing can stop what is coming. Both interior coaches on our staff come from the Pros. The elite kids are paying attention. The Blue Bloods know they're competing with us. The only thing stopping us now is game time performance. Quarterback, the Battle in the Trenches, and Defense. You saw it in the Super Bowl yesterday. You saw it all throughout both the NFL playoffs and the CFP playoffs. Did you see how Lanning disrupted a pretty lethal Bama offense? Did you see unreal throws from Stetson Bennet? Bo Nix is better. Hell make Thomson and Butterfield better. And the future elite kids are already taking about OBD. USC's national reputation is going to draw eyeballs nationwide. We are already on the doorstep. Ding Dong. The best is yet to come.

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