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SEC Bluster, and Superb Oregon Metrics & Depth!

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We'll be better than this!

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Nobody has OUR depth!

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Elite Offense coming for 2026!

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So true...so fun to watch and recall!

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Never grows Old....

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If you don't like the SEC and think they are full of hot air... Oh do I have a fun article on Monday. Stay tuned everyone!

Yes... Shameless self promotion.

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Thank you, Charles, for these great posts. There is humidity where the SEC is meeting in Tampa, but no humility. Perhaps when it doesn't Just Mean More on the field, you might want to zip it?

When Big Ten media days open on Tuesday, July 28th, in Chicago, I expect Tony Petitti to reiterate the facts about the conference's athletic success in 2025 and 2026 to date, and then rest his case.

I expect to hear nothing about the difficulty of schedules versus 'The Other Guys' or anything about breaking away and going intramural except in response to questions from the media.

It will be interesting if we hear from Tony and the coaches about the preference for a 24-team playoff field.

The PO committee's final ranking on 12/7/25 would have given us a 16-team PO field with 7 SEC, 3 Big Ten, 3 B12, 1 ACC, 1 G5 team that would have knocked out 16 USC and Notre Dame. Four of the eight first-round games would have been hosted by SEC teams.

A 2025 24-team field: 7 SEC, 6 Big Ten, 5 B12, 3 ACC, 2 G5, and Notre Dame.

Tony is a businessman well aware that the PO committee's process is opaque and the results are SEC-centric. Tony will not agree to a 16-team PO without automatic qualifiers, which are not included in Tony's 24-team proposal.

From having the bully playoff pulpit a few seasons back, Greg Sankey is now on a playoff island of his own.

BTW, what do you think ESPN would pay to broadcast intramural SEC sports with the playoffs only involving SEC teams?

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1st round 2025 16-team field games:

1. Indiana vs. 16 Tulane

8. Oklahoma vs. 9. Alabama

4. Texas Tech vs. 13. Texas

5. Oregon vs. 12. BYU

2. Ohio State vs. 15. Utah

7. Texas A+M vs. 10. Miami

3. Georgia vs. 14. Vanderbilt

6. Mississippi vs. 11. Notre Dame

Georgia had a bye and lost to Mississippi in the Sugar Bowl; Oklahoma and Texas A+M lost home games. Texas did defeat a dysfunctional Michigan team in its bowl game; Vanderbilt lost its bowl game to 4-loss Iowa. And as a side note, 3-loss Illinois defeated 3-loss Tennessee in Nashville.

Five SEC teams in the 12-team field; none played for a championship.

The PO committee thinks the SEC is the top football conference; Tony Petitti, speaking softly and carrying a B1G stick, disagrees.

Bill Parcells: "Your record says what you are".

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Per St. Nick: “First of all, whoever wins the national championship doesn’t define who has the best conference. I think the best conference gets defined by how many good teams you have from top to bottom."

Facts to ignore: But to suggest that the Big Ten is solely winning national championships and getting lucky with one team the last few years conveniently ignores that the depth argument about the SEC also doesn’t hold up, at least at the top of the league. The Big Ten was 11-5 in bowl games last year, the SEC was 4-10. In fact, the Big Ten has a combined 8-2 record against the SEC in bowl games over the last two seasons and a 3-0 record in the College Football Playoff.

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1 hour ago, Steven A said:

Per St. Nick: “First of all, whoever wins the national championship doesn’t define who has the best conference. I think the best conference gets defined by how many good teams you have from top to bottom."

Facts to ignore: But to suggest that the Big Ten is solely winning national championships and getting lucky with one team the last few years conveniently ignores that the depth argument about the SEC also doesn’t hold up, at least at the top of the league. The Big Ten was 11-5 in bowl games last year, the SEC was 4-10. In fact, the Big Ten has a combined 8-2 record against the SEC in bowl games over the last two seasons and a 3-0 record in the College Football Playoff.

If we're talking plurality in which the conference has the most competition from top to bottom the Old Pac-12 was the best conference as anyone could win in any given week.

Now it would be the Big 12 as they have the most competition from a game-to-game and week-to-week basis.

But we don't count those conferences because they didn't or can't win a national championship because they don't have a team that could win it all.

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2 hours ago, Steven A said:

Per St. Nick: “First of all, whoever wins the national championship doesn’t define who has the best conference. I think the best conference gets defined by how many good teams you have from top to bottom."

Facts to ignore: But to suggest that the Big Ten is solely winning national championships and getting lucky with one team the last few years conveniently ignores that the depth argument about the SEC also doesn’t hold up, at least at the top of the league. The Big Ten was 11-5 in bowl games last year, the SEC was 4-10. In fact, the Big Ten has a combined 8-2 record against the SEC in bowl games over the last two seasons and a 3-0 record in the College Football Playoff.

"Facts are inconvenient things." John Adams.

If the SEC is the top football conference, how did Bama defeat all of those ranked SEC teams in a row, make the PO with three losses, win a 1st-round PO game at SEC behemoth Oklahoma, and lose 38-3 to Indiana?

At SEC media days, Kirby Smart reminded everyone that Georgia's 2nd-round loss in the Sugar Bowl last season was to SEC opponent Mississippi.

Apparently, Kirby doesn't recall losing the 2024-25 Sugar Bowl to Notre Dame?

Understandable. I don't like to recall the 2024-25 Rose Bowl or the 2025-26 Peach Bowl; however, OBD lost to Big Ten teams, Big Ten teams that won championships.

In 2025, PO home game 1st-round loser Texas A&M played six of the SEC's seven bottom teams. A&M did not defeat an SEC team that won more than six games. Overranked throughout the season, Missouri did not defeat a P4 opponent that won more than six games.

As was the case in the ACC, B12, and Big Ten in 2026, six SEC teams did not win more than five games. That's 33.33% of the Big Ten and 37.50% of the SEC. In a year where the B1G played nine conference games and the SEC played eight.

When you obfuscate, even in Tampa, Florida, you are skating on thin ice.

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23 minutes ago, Jon Joseph said:

When you obfuscate

You lose me.

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I don't believe author RJ Young and Lane are Kiffin cousins. 🤬

https://www.foxsports.com/stories/college-football/lane-kiffin-lsu-ole-miss-contract-salary

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These media days are just a circus. From Pat Narduzzi trying to get Manny Diaz to do a wrestling promo on transfer tampering, and LSU of all people saying no conference mate should ever take from a fellow conference mate.... Yeah that happened. Didn't Kiffin try to pilfer Ole Miss during their playoff run?!!!!

You had Kirby Smart calling Kiffin Adonis, which led podcaster RJ Young into grading how beautiful head coaches are..... Not in my bingo card🤣.

Pete Golding said he would have no issues in moral ambiguity when it comes to player acquisition, because everyone is doing it. An obvious shout out to old Lane. That brought the silliloquoy of brilliance, that Kiffin responded with today....

Eli Drinkowitz complained about the nine game schedule.

Will Stein said Kentucky was going to win, and win big because of himself. That's right, Will Stein pulled the old Ric Flair promo out. "To be the man...Woooooo!!!"

Jon Sumrall spoke on how his situation was nothing like Lane Kiffins. Despite Kiffin insisting it was during the season. Sumrall plainly told Lane the leaving Tulane for an SEC school was not the same as leaving an SEC school for another SEC school. Imagine a B1G coach leaving for another B1G job and telling the Chesney, who left James Madison for UCLA, that it was the same situation.

What do I gather from all this? A bunch of bluster, and press clippings. The SEC isn't going to breakaway from the NCAA, it's all for show. All the other sports would be dead if that happened, including men's basketball, which also makes a pretty nickel ( pennies are discontinued).

Nick Saban is an Alabama spokesman, so of course he'll always be a spokesman for what they want to hear.

In Chicago, we'll get to hear some more promos. Except this time it will be from the B1G side. If you enjoy this stuff, that's cool. I just wouldn't expect to learn much.

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The old SEC motto--WE were great when we brought the $$$$ in from the back door.😃

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13 hours ago, GatOrlando said:

What do I gather from all this? A bunch of bluster, and press clippings. The SEC isn't going to breakaway from the NCAA, it's all for show. All the other sports would be dead if that happened, including men's basketball, which also makes a pretty nickel ( pennies are discontinued).

Brilliant post Gat, but the rest of the SEC fans?

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Great post on this topic from Gat. Thank you, Gator!

SEC football is terrific, as is men's basketball and the non-revenue sports.

Instead of the brickbats, how about we come together and go to a 24-team playoff that will provide more money for the ACC and the B12 and at least slow further consolidation of college football.

FBS football should leave the NCAA. Agree on eligibility rules, reasonable restrictions on tampering and transfers, restrictions on tampering with another program's coaches before the end of the season, consolidation of the season with a special time slot for the Army-Navy game that does not add another week to the season, uniform penalties for breaking the rules, and enforcement of the rules after a reasonable investigatory period by the commissioner's office that does not take years. Adjust the rules as needed between the P4 and the G6.

Eligibility. If a player is not eligible under clear and concise eligibility rules and the player goes to court to seek an injunction, unless an injunction is issued by a federal court and sustained on appeal, ignore state court judgments and do not reinstate the player.

What's Judge Billy Bob going to do? Shut down the program? He'll be run out of his state on a rail. But this would take everyone following the rules, no more pre-puberty-like whining about everyone else is doing it so we have to do it too inanity. (Is this the message Pete Golding and his spouse are teaching their children?)

Name a commissioner of the FBS and give the commissioner the authority to enforce the agreed-upon rules.

Stop the fiction; call people being paid to play directly by their school and third-party businesses what they are: employees. Bargain with a 'players union,' so management and the workforce are in agreement, and the lawyers are kept at bay.

Consider creating a Consolidated College Sports Network and selling the product directly to advertisers without media middlemen. There would be different strata of media revenue distribution as is the case now, but no existing FBS program and its fans would be left behind.

And once Notre Dame and UConn are required to join a conference, why the need for any further conference expansion?

Maintain control of the inventory and control of game times. For revenue sports, after agreement on a base amount for G6 teams and P4 teams, split the proceeds determined by success and viewership.

No games, especially postseason games, should be starting as late in the day as they do today. Teams should have uniform bye weeks; a team that played the week before should not have to travel and play a team that was off the week before. For football, have half of the teams off in Week 7 and half off in Week 8. No football team should play more than seven weeks without having a week off.

Stop the billionaire CFB battles.

"My conference is better than your conference! Nah, nah, nah, nah, nah!"

A team or teams in your conference will be better than teams from another conference from time to time.

Who cares. Let's crawl out of the sandbox and stop slinging mud pies, sticks, and stones at one another. If the adults act as adults, it will perhaps be a better example for the athletes.

What's Pete Golding going to say to a player who plagiarized and is disciplined by the university and says: "But coach, everybody else is doing it!"

But in fairness to Pete, when this hypothetical happened at North Carolina, the NCAA gave the school a pass because everyone, not just athletes, was cheating.

Rant over. I'll now return to the 'real world' of win-at-all-costs college sports.

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40 minutes ago, Jon Joseph said:

I'll now return to the 'real world' of win-at-all-costs college sports.

Welcome back to reality and the dodging of the judicial torpedoes.

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The media poll 2026 SEC champion - I like Georgia on top and ahead of a Texas team that is talented but has a more difficult schedule than the Dawgs.

Georgia's schedule is ranked the easiest in the SEC, but it's still an absolute witch.

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College football rankings: Preseason SEC Poll released

Texas and Georgia headline the SEC preseason poll, released by the league following SEC Media Days this week.

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