We bought the five-year hype, swallowed the corporate PR, and now we're staring at a multi-million-dollar dumpster fire in year five.

When Dan Lanning took over the Oregon Ducks program, I became his loudest evangelist. I spent years selling a narrative to fellow writers, friends, and college football pundits, constantly telling anyone who would listen to give Lanning five years to build his culture, stack his recruits, and develop class after class so we would be competing for a national title in year five. I drove that timeline myself and convinced everyone it was the gospel blueprint. Now, here we are in year five, and the product on the field is falling completely short. We sat through the transition years acknowledging Mario Cristobal's leftover pieces and bought into the long-term investment, but I have to own it: I was the chief card-carrying jock sniffer who bought and sold the hype hook, line, and sinker.

Fast forward to year five. With an $11 million annual salary, a roster backed by Phil Knight and heavy-hitting boosters funding $40 to $50 million into the program, and preseason expectations pinning us as the national championship contender at number two, what has Lanning actually delivered? A massive regression.

When you are pulling in top-tier recruiting classes and backed by a bottomless war chest of booster money, regression in year five isn't a "rebuilding phase"—it's a systemic coaching failure. Let’s stop pretending this is a gentle college football laboratory where young coaches get a multi-year grace period to learn on the job. This is high-stakes corporate business. When you pay a head coach elite-tier money, you expect an elite-tier product that commands the field from snap to whistle. Instead, we are looking at brutal losses, no path to the playoff, and an offense that looks completely out of sorts.

The Offensive Line and Scheme Collapse

The most glaring disaster of this fifth year is the trenches, specifically across the offensive line. Year after year, the hallmark of elite Oregon football was physical dominance up front. Right now? We are seeing stagnant blocking schemes, poor execution, and zero continuity. A'lique Terry is working with his own underperforming line without the benefit of experienced portal transfers to steady the ship, but the failure goes deeper.

Drew Mehringer lacks the maturity and fortitude required as a play-caller. As we saw against Illinois, the moment our patched-together line establishes a rhythm on the ground—averaging five yards a pop on the first drive—Mehringer completely abandons the run game to force deep shot balls, and random trick plays with zero sequencing. Contrast that with Illinois calmly pounding out eight straight runs to punch in a touchdown to set the tone at the start of the second half. Mehringer's erratic, undisciplined play-calling leaves an already historically bad offense spinning backward and drops us to a disastrous 4-3 record.

A Discount Coaching Staff on a Billion-Dollar Budget

You cannot run a multi-million-dollar athletic enterprise designed to compete for national titles while filling out your offensive staff with bargain-bin résumés. Lanning hasn't surrounded himself with high-profile assistant coaches who match the financial investment of the roster. We are relying on position groups—specifically pointing out the glaring resume gaps across our offensive staff units—that simply lack the elite pedigree demanded by this level of competition.

When you miss out on hosting a home playoff game and get bounced early, it burns millions of dollars in playoff payouts, ticket sales, and home-field revenue. This isn't just a scoreboard failure; it's a financial hemorrhage.

Rolling Heads is the Only Option

Athletic director Rob Mullens will have no choice but to step in and force Lanning to roll heads. The fanbase and the financial backers didn't pour record-shattering funds into this program to watch a regression in year five.

Patience is dead. The multi-year grace period is over. Lanning needs to realize that if he wants to survive the pressure cooker in Eugene, he has to go out and hire actual football dudes who know how to scheme, coach, and win when the lights are brightest. Right now, the product on the field isn't championship football—it's an embarrassing expensive pile of hot garbage.

Edited 9 hours ago9 hr by dazednconfused

I've been saying that once again, I willingly, eyes wide open, drank the kool-aid. Heck... I pretty much guzzled it.

I am Charlie Brown, and this program is Lucy holding the football. I bite every time.

Edited 9 hours ago9 hr by Desert Duck

It's hard to recruit to Oregon compared to the other blue bloods when the money is equal. So you are forced to pick coaches that can recruit over coaches that can coach, and here we are.

When you run the Lambo into the wall turn 1, Lanning just brushes you off, hands you the keys and says "keep trying Scooter".

Edited 9 hours ago9 hr by Log Haulin

1 minute ago, Solar said:

It's hard to recruit to Oregon compared to the other blue bloods when the money is equal. So you are forced to pick coaches that can recruit over coaches that can coach, and here we are.

I disagree with that narrative. Dan didn't even do any interviews to replace Tosh and Stien, he just promoted. Dilly, Tosh and Stien are all now HC's. Klemm went to the Pats and now he is Bama's new OL coach. Carlos Locklyn moved to the Buckeyes.

Oregon can draw good coaches.

Edited 9 hours ago9 hr by dazednconfused

4 minutes ago, dazednconfused said:

I disagree with that narrative. Dan didn't even do any interviews to replace Tosh and Stien, he just promoted. Dilly, Tosh and Stien are all now HC's. Klemm went to the Pats and now he is Bama's new OL coach. Carlos Locklyn moved to the Buckeyes.

Oregon can draw good coaches.

I just mean that judging by the hires Dan makes, that coaches that can recruit is non negotiable and therefore coming at the expense of coaches that can coach.

We don't know the coaching budget Dan has to work with.

1 minute ago, Solar said:

I just mean that judging by the hires Dan makes, that coaches that can recruit is non negotiable and therefore coming at the expense of coaches that can coach.

We don't know the coaching budget Dan has to work with.

Tosh was 2-mil and Stein around 1.75-mil if I recall right. They were paid top-20 in Coordinators for college

Edited 9 hours ago9 hr by dazednconfused

1 minute ago, dazednconfused said:

Tosh was 2-mil and Stein around 1.75-mil if I recall right. They were paid top-20 in Coordinators for college

Dan's salary keeps going up and perhaps Dan diverted funds into NIL thinking he had a good staff on the cheap he could promote from within.

22 minutes ago, Solar said:

It's hard to recruit to Oregon compared to the other blue bloods when the money is equal. So you are forced to pick coaches that can recruit over coaches that can coach, and here we are.

But can't we recruit both? Going to need to at this point.

1 hour ago, dazednconfused said:

We bought the five-year hype, swallowed the corporate PR, and now we're staring at a multi-million-dollar dumpster fire in year five.

When Dan Lanning took over the Oregon Ducks program, I became his loudest evangelist. I spent years selling a narrative to fellow writers, friends, and college football pundits, constantly telling anyone who would listen to give Lanning five years to build his culture, stack his recruits, and develop class after class so we would be competing for a national title in year five. I drove that timeline myself and convinced everyone it was the gospel blueprint. Now, here we are in year five, and the product on the field is falling completely short. We sat through the transition years acknowledging Mario Cristobal's leftover pieces and bought into the long-term investment, but I have to own it: I was the chief card-carrying jock sniffer who bought and sold the hype hook, line, and sinker.

Fast forward to year five. With an $11 million annual salary, a roster backed by Phil Knight and heavy-hitting boosters funding $40 to $50 million into the program, and preseason expectations pinning us as the national championship contender at number two, what has Lanning actually delivered? A massive regression.

When you are pulling in top-tier recruiting classes and backed by a bottomless war chest of booster money, regression in year five isn't a "rebuilding phase"—it's a systemic coaching failure. Let’s stop pretending this is a gentle college football laboratory where young coaches get a multi-year grace period to learn on the job. This is high-stakes corporate business. When you pay a head coach elite-tier money, you expect an elite-tier product that commands the field from snap to whistle. Instead, we are looking at brutal losses, no path to the playoff, and an offense that looks completely out of sorts.

The Offensive Line and Scheme Collapse

The most glaring disaster of this fifth year is the trenches, specifically across the offensive line. Year after year, the hallmark of elite Oregon football was physical dominance up front. Right now? We are seeing stagnant blocking schemes, poor execution, and zero continuity. A'lique Terry is working with his own underperforming line without the benefit of experienced portal transfers to steady the ship, but the failure goes deeper.

Drew Mehringer lacks the maturity and fortitude required as a play-caller. As we saw against Illinois, the moment our patched-together line establishes a rhythm on the ground—averaging five yards a pop on the first drive—Mehringer completely abandons the run game to force deep shot balls, and random trick plays with zero sequencing. Contrast that with Illinois calmly pounding out eight straight runs to punch in a touchdown to set the tone at the start of the second half. Mehringer's erratic, undisciplined play-calling leaves an already historically bad offense spinning backward and drops us to a disastrous 4-3 record.

A Discount Coaching Staff on a Billion-Dollar Budget

You cannot run a multi-million-dollar athletic enterprise designed to compete for national titles while filling out your offensive staff with bargain-bin résumés. Lanning hasn't surrounded himself with high-profile assistant coaches who match the financial investment of the roster. We are relying on position groups—specifically pointing out the glaring resume gaps across our offensive staff units—that simply lack the elite pedigree demanded by this level of competition.

When you miss out on hosting a home playoff game and get bounced early, it burns millions of dollars in playoff payouts, ticket sales, and home-field revenue. This isn't just a scoreboard failure; it's a financial hemorrhage.

Rolling Heads is the Only Option

Athletic director Rob Mullens will have no choice but to step in and force Lanning to roll heads. The fanbase and the financial backers didn't pour record-shattering funds into this program to watch a regression in year five.

Patience is dead. The multi-year grace period is over. Lanning needs to realize that if he wants to survive the pressure cooker in Eugene, he has to go out and hire actual football dudes who know how to scheme, coach, and win when the lights are brightest. Right now, the product on the field isn't championship football—it's an embarrassing expensive pile of hot garbage.

Post. Of. The. Year.

I don’t think that Lanning should be fired but he needs to overhaul his program.

Edited 8 hours ago8 hr by OregonDucks

5 minutes ago, OregonDucks said:

Post. Of. The. Year.

I don’t think that Lanning should be fired but he needs to overhaul his program.

The question is he capable of overhauling the program. There has been no improvement since the Indiana game.

Have not mentioned it to try to remain positive; but, anyone else catching similar vibes to the end of the Helfrich Era?

• Two bad DC hires that led to the complete collapse on one side of the ball, this time on offense rather than defense.

• QB injuries and now off the field troubles, all which get magnified once losses pile up. Helfrich could not land a top high school QB recruit (that could play), VA saved the day one season; but, as we saw, the product collapsed as he turned to Prokop and then a freshman (who was good but the offense was no longer to cover for the imploding D).

• Helfrich certainly had his share of bad apples. Arguably more than his share; but, as long as the team kept winning, they mostly were tolerated. Once the losses came, they weren't.

Lanning has not had that; but, the recent incident landing right after the team overcelebrates a home win over what is probably just an ok team during a season already teetering, doesn't look great. I expect the "culture" to hold together; but, if the season turns into a battle to get to 0.500 after expectations, we have seen things head South before.

I try to generally not get into all the firing coaches stuff; but, it has taken Oregon 33 years (and the perhaps once-in-a-program's-lifetime Nike benefit) to get here. Staying in this college football tier might not survive allowing a 2-3 year coaching death spiral (which was a major reasoning behind not giving Helfrich one more year). Helfich had been to the NC and then possibly an Eastern Washington player cheap shot away from following it up with 11-1 (I would say with a healthy VA 2/3 of Michigan State, Utah, and WSU were very winnable).

The internal OC/DC promotions are the kinds that are ok as long as they work. There were plenty of question about their wisdom though. Just like Helfrich those hires are all on DL. As is having a bunch of 30-somethings being your staff. What did coach Terry have before Oregon? No years of being an assistant OL coach (beyond a GA); and, one year as an OL head coach at Hawaii (even the one year with the Minnesota Vikings was with the DL). That's on DL. No way to really be sure how Terry would be at developing an OL room with 15 young guys if he has never done it.

As discussed elsewhere, lots of questions about how the estimated $7-$8 million in NIL money was spent.

After 4 years of A or A- grades in the portal, at this point I'm not sure if the 2026 group even gets a C-? No significant help to what was a very inexperienced OL room with questions (including Luli and Wilson recovering from significant injuries). A slot WR who was behind two true FR, a DL who while not a whiff exactly, has been behind a couple guys already in the program.

The Perich move made sense because, Theineman worked; but, that's making a lot of assumptions. Purdue fans were much more upset losing their guy than Minnesota fans (they were excited with his first year but not as much his second and felt for the most part guys already in their program could play at a similar level for a fraction of the NIL Minnesota attempted to hang onto him with). Finally, wasn't that familiar with Raiola but after watching him, am not getting it.

Was this, much like Koi, "Well, Moore worked out so let's just do it again"? The estimated $1.5 to $2.0 million he got for this season could have brought in a starting portal OT like Lance Heard or OG like Tegra Tshabola who had a combined 53 P2 conference starts. Really now comes across as a lot of young coaching hubris.

The deal with having such a young staff, and guys like Terry, Wadood, Araghi, Ka'ai (and even Samples and Douglas, who I like a bit more based on a limited sample) must probably at least in part to be young, relatable, and fun to recruits. With NIL and the portal, that just may be less valuable than ever.

7-5 or 6-6 this year and any kind of slow start in 2027 (behind losing like 11 starters and possibly Dante plus whatever else happens in the portal), could end up looking pretty Helfich-esque. I could be talked down off the ledge though 🤷‍♂️

2 hours ago, dazednconfused said:

We bought the five-year hype, swallowed the corporate PR, and now we're staring at a multi-million-dollar dumpster fire in year five.

When Dan Lanning took over the Oregon Ducks program, I became his loudest evangelist. I spent years selling a narrative to fellow writers, friends, and college football pundits, constantly telling anyone who would listen to give Lanning five years to build his culture, stack his recruits, and develop class after class so we would be competing for a national title in year five. I drove that timeline myself and convinced everyone it was the gospel blueprint. Now, here we are in year five, and the product on the field is falling completely short. We sat through the transition years acknowledging Mario Cristobal's leftover pieces and bought into the long-term investment, but I have to own it: I was the chief card-carrying jock sniffer who bought and sold the hype hook, line, and sinker.

Fast forward to year five. With an $11 million annual salary, a roster backed by Phil Knight and heavy-hitting boosters funding $40 to $50 million into the program, and preseason expectations pinning us as the national championship contender at number two, what has Lanning actually delivered? A massive regression.

When you are pulling in top-tier recruiting classes and backed by a bottomless war chest of booster money, regression in year five isn't a "rebuilding phase"—it's a systemic coaching failure. Let’s stop pretending this is a gentle college football laboratory where young coaches get a multi-year grace period to learn on the job. This is high-stakes corporate business. When you pay a head coach elite-tier money, you expect an elite-tier product that commands the field from snap to whistle. Instead, we are looking at brutal losses, no path to the playoff, and an offense that looks completely out of sorts.

The Offensive Line and Scheme Collapse

The most glaring disaster of this fifth year is the trenches, specifically across the offensive line. Year after year, the hallmark of elite Oregon football was physical dominance up front. Right now? We are seeing stagnant blocking schemes, poor execution, and zero continuity. A'lique Terry is working with his own underperforming line without the benefit of experienced portal transfers to steady the ship, but the failure goes deeper.

Drew Mehringer lacks the maturity and fortitude required as a play-caller. As we saw against Illinois, the moment our patched-together line establishes a rhythm on the ground—averaging five yards a pop on the first drive—Mehringer completely abandons the run game to force deep shot balls, and random trick plays with zero sequencing. Contrast that with Illinois calmly pounding out eight straight runs to punch in a touchdown to set the tone at the start of the second half. Mehringer's erratic, undisciplined play-calling leaves an already historically bad offense spinning backward and drops us to a disastrous 4-3 record.

A Discount Coaching Staff on a Billion-Dollar Budget

You cannot run a multi-million-dollar athletic enterprise designed to compete for national titles while filling out your offensive staff with bargain-bin résumés. Lanning hasn't surrounded himself with high-profile assistant coaches who match the financial investment of the roster. We are relying on position groups—specifically pointing out the glaring resume gaps across our offensive staff units—that simply lack the elite pedigree demanded by this level of competition.

When you miss out on hosting a home playoff game and get bounced early, it burns millions of dollars in playoff payouts, ticket sales, and home-field revenue. This isn't just a scoreboard failure; it's a financial hemorrhage.

Rolling Heads is the Only Option

Athletic director Rob Mullens will have no choice but to step in and force Lanning to roll heads. The fanbase and the financial backers didn't pour record-shattering funds into this program to watch a regression in year five.

Patience is dead. The multi-year grace period is over. Lanning needs to realize that if he wants to survive the pressure cooker in Eugene, he has to go out and hire actual football dudes who know how to scheme, coach, and win when the lights are brightest. Right now, the product on the field isn't championship football—it's an embarrassing expensive pile of hot garbage.

2 hours ago, Solar said:

It's hard to recruit to Oregon compared to the other blue bloods when the money is equal. So you are forced to pick coaches that can recruit over coaches that can coach, and here we are.

Gotta pay to play. That's the state we are in!

And to think that I used to make snarky comments about Mario.

As I said earlier the promotion of Hampton was a good a call as Meringer was bad. The position coaches are doing well.

Think about the true freshman doing well at wide receiver. That's great coaching. The freshman running back. Great coaching. Terry is getting drug through the mud. I doubt not taking transfer linemen was his choice. The line is a grown man's position. Not young stud position.

And right now four of the five top receivers are out. Starting quarterback out. Two starting linemen out. I think anyone would have a hard time with that. And the OC Isn't very good.

Not sure Dilly or Stein would be killing it with this situation. But we would definitely score more than 15,17 and 10 points

1 hour ago, OregonDucks said:

Post. Of. The. Year.

I don’t think that Lanning should be fired but he needs to overhaul his program.

Why don't you think he should be fired? Or rather why should a guy "born' on 3rd base in terms of NIL and facilities not be on some sort of hot seat for bad management and failing to right the ship?

1 hour ago, Fitnessczar said:

As I said earlier the promotion of Hampton was a good a call as Meringer was bad. The position coaches are doing well.

Think about the true freshman doing well at wide receiver. That's great coaching. The freshman running back. Great coaching. Terry is getting drug through the mud. I doubt not taking transfer linemen was his choice. The line is a grown man's position. Not young stud position.

And right now four of the five top receivers are out. Starting quarterback out. Two starting linemen out. I think anyone would have a hard time with that. And the OC Isn't very good.

Not sure Dilly or Stein would be killing it with this situation. But we would definitely score more than 15,17 and 10 points

With all due respect, you're digging to make excuses.

We lost to a 3-star QB making his first career start backed up by a roster made of 90% 3-stars.

We got an butt load of blue chips, a 5-star backup QB, and eight blue chip OL guys on the roster. The Frosh WR's Lott and Hampton who where are a 5 and 4 star - let's not credit the coaching for that.

We are doing less with more talent than anyone in the country and injuries are not an excuse for losing to a team we have 90% more talant than.

27 minutes ago, dazednconfused said:

With all due respect, you're digging to make excuses.

We lost to a 3-star QB making his first career start backed up by a roster made of 90% 3-stars.

We got an butt load of blue chips, a 5-star backup QB, and eight blue chip OL guys on the roster. The Frosh WR's Lott and Hampton who where are a 5 and 4 star - let's not credit the coaching for that.

We are doing less with more talent than anyone in the country and injuries are not an excuse for losing to a team we have 90% more talant than.

Not digging. And their QB had 84 yards passing. And one unbelievable catch for 23 of them.

2 hours ago, Fitnessczar said:

Think about the true freshman doing well at wide receiver...

2 hours ago, Fitnessczar said:

And right now four of the five top receivers are out. Starting quarterback out. Two starting linemen out...

Luli out hurts some today but he has had a pretty slow start returning from injury this year. Ferguson had like 42 promising snaps, 12 as a starter (before going out). Stewart wouldn't be playing right now even if he was healthy I imagine.

McClellen is a bumber but injuries do happen; and, Raiola isn't exactly your normal "backup QB". Former 5 star with like 24 career starts in the P2 with 17 more career completions than Dante (as well as getting an estimated $1.5-$2.0 million this year to be more than a regular back-up). Hampton has been a nice surprise so far but 26 receiving yards per game at 8.9 ypc shouldn't be an insurmountable obstacle to running your offense. Lott has 4 catches in 2 career games.

This was against and Illinois team that had been giving up 28 points per game (105 out of 138) and 99th in defensive FEI. They were so bad on defense they fired their DC (Bobby Hauck) two games ago.

Edited 3 hours ago3 hr by AnotherOD

To consider firing Lanning is in my opinion emotional insanity! Our offensive coordinator should have been fired before leaving the parking lot!

4 hours ago, Fitnessczar said:

As I said earlier the promotion of Hampton was a good a call as Meringer was bad. The position coaches are doing well.

Think about the true freshman doing well at wide receiver. That's great coaching. The freshman running back. Great coaching. Terry is getting drug through the mud. I doubt not taking transfer linemen was his choice. The line is a grown man's position. Not young stud position.

And right now four of the five top receivers are out. Starting quarterback out. Two starting linemen out. I think anyone would have a hard time with that. And the OC Isn't very good.

Not sure Dilly or Stein would be killing it with this situation. But we would definitely score more than 15,17 and 10 points

QB an OL position coaches are B.A.D. QBs all show regression and OLs with multiple years in the program still don't know how to play.

4 hours ago, Utki said:

Why don't you think he should be fired? Or rather why should a guy "born' on 3rd base in terms of NIL and facilities not be on some sort of hot seat for bad management and failing to right the ship?

Because I’ve been around long enough to see coaches learn and develop, make hiring mistakes and correct those mistakes. Where would Oregon be today if they fired Coach Brooks or Coach Bellotti after a mediocre season?

Coach Lanning is a young coach who is learning on the job. It took Coach Saban and Coach Cignetti many years before they won their first national championship.

Do you remember the last head coaching job search? Oregon is not the destination job that many Oregon fans think it is. Yes, the program has great facilities, NIL money, etc. but it is far from recruiting hotbeds. I’d rather coach at Texas, USC, Georgia, Ohio State, …

I would only get rid of Lanning, if you had someone guaranteed to be better lined up, first.

Edited 1 hour ago1 hr by OregonDucks