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I think another perspective we should all take is we have no input on who will be hired. We can vent and proselytize, but it doesn't make one person more right than the other. I will make my make my basic points. We need somebody from the west coast, knows the west coast, wants to be here, isn't just talking the talk. We also need somebody who has shown they can be successful as a head coach, and not limit ourselves to who can win a national championship, those are a rare bird. Our program has shown we make coaches better, we just need to find a coach who truly appreciates what we bring, not just what they would bring! The big question is who is going to be the next great Oregon Head Football Coach, and nobody knows! We can talk about what we want and why, but each of our opinions is worth ink it is written in, wait there is no ink.

You make some good points. I would just add I would be happy with the hire and hope others would give him a chance if he was hired. Oregon has a way of making great coaches out of nobody's, Mario was just a good recruiter, and is now in line to make bank. I also don't want to see us reach out to another coach, in desperation, who will then just leave like the last two. Maybe we had something magical with Bellotti, but a west coast guy who likes the area is a must for me. We shouldn't be desperate, but time is of the essence and the clock is ticking. I also admit I would find it more acceptable hiring a qualified Oregon alumni, rather than somebody from Florida or any school without a west coast connection. I will own that bias. I would also add one of the reasons Smith is doing so well at OSU is he is from OSU, can sell the magic of OSU. Wilcox could do the same at Oregon.

Ok let's really look at that. I tend to think Cal and OSU are pretty comparable, both tough schools to win at, little support. The beavs probably have more fan support, but CAL is a draw academically, climate wise, and just closer to athletes. Wilcox has been at Cal one more year. He has one more winning year than Jonathan. He also has two bowl appearances and a win in a bowl game. Jonathan hasn't been to a bowl nor won one as a coach. If there is a inferiority complex it is thinking an Oregon guy can't lead the Oregon program. We don't need some superstar coach, who looks upon Oregon as a huge paycheck, stepping stone, and a place to leave on fire. When I saw Brian Kelly try and throw the southern accent it made me think of Cristobal trying to sell us on knowing Oregon, loving Oregon, just an effort. We need somebody who knows Oregon, Mario didn't know Oregon, he sold us on the idea he loved Oregon, but he didn't. There is a guy who grew up close to Autzen bleeds green and yellow and would be a great coach. He isn't just from Oregon, was a great assistant and could be a good coach. I liked the idea of Helfrich, but he wasn't a great coach and look at what he did with far less than Wilcox would inherit. If people want Jonathan Smith then we should definitely want Justin. Anyone think Jonathan could do better at Oregon than he is at osu? Same can be said of Justin, and I believe a lot better. We have a support system which gives him just about anything he needs to succeed. The same will be given to the next coach, lets try and make sure the next guy doesn't just burn it all down when he gets an itch.

We should certainly aim higher than Florida on the map!

Agree, but first let's get somebody on the job of finding a capable coach to clean up this mess!

Classy move, players first! Again I give him some credit, credit due.

I do have a lot more respect about the process Mario is going through than the one slick went through. I will also say I was wrong about if Mario decides to stay he wouldn't have any validity as a recruiter. He could salvage his reputation, I just don't expect that. I just want to see the program move forward and execute an offensive game plan, unlike our offense on the field.

I will also say Mullens gets along with PK, and that is one of the most important ways The Oregon Athletic Department can thrive. As long as Mullens understands this he keeps his job. I can't imagine the potential outcome of this loss will play well with PK. Somebody OK'd this massive offer, and to lose isn't a good thing.

Chasing somebody who doesn't want to be here longterm with money is stupid money, bottomline. Give him until 5:00 tonight or he stays under the old contract because he wants to be here. If he needs more time let him pay for it.

I hope Mullens is just sitting by shaking his head yes on this hire. The last two Florida boys weren't all they were made out to be. Put Kilkenny on a jet and get him to work on finding the next Dana Altman of football.

If we can pull David Aranda back to the west coast then yes. I don't want to see another short term fix who becomes a house fire again. I think the bottomline question is who would do it, could do it quick and do it well in the short term, because we have to save recruiting. Recruiting, right now is critical for the next 4 years of this program. If recruiting this year is gutted, then we suffer, like a team with sanctions. That is basically what Cristobal is setting us up with. I don't think Wilcox should be shackled with one poor season as his ceiling. The guy has integrity, is a good coach and would excel better at Oregon. Aranda would be ideal, west coast guy and I like the way he holds himself. Might seem crazy, but he just has a presence on the sideline I have never seen Cristobal have. Wilcox has the same look to me.

It is amazing Miami gave him a deadline and we didn't? If this is true then Mullens is already dropping the ball. Mullens needs to be putting the next guy in place soon. He also needs to force Mario's hand so he can make a decision. This is business, not some sale on craigslist. Hopefully, and I think this is probably true, Mullens isn't really making the full decision. Smarter minds are making the choice and probably having a lot of the calls made. Mullens has already played his Florida cards and they weren't a winning hand either time.

It really does seem like the logical fix, but what do we know? We do need to hire well, and hire soon. The thought of having no one when the signing period ends, and Mario's assistants poaching our kids doesn't sit well. I will say if I hear we hired somebody from Florida again, I might just kick my dog! I definitely won't be posting what I would be thinking!

Tend to agree, Mario was like a chef who could cook one thing very well. The problem is a restaurant needs many items to make it work. He doesn't have it to make the restaurant really work. He was the elite recruiter from Alabama. He was also the failed coach from FIU, we got both. Miami just hired both, good luck with that.

If true I hope the door doesn't hit him on the way out, actually I hope it does, he falls down the stairs, and then trips into the road and gets run over, twice. There I said it. Wow in a weird way I kind of feel better.

If true then Justin Wilcox just beat sc and has no obligations until next season. I hope we don't repeat the same pattern we have seen too often.

Mario and Manny are one in the same. Miami native Cuban immigrant family Miami legend One thing for sure, if Mario leaves we shouldn't be hiring Manny. I'm tired of resurrecting, building coaches reputations so they can move on to where they want to be. People and organizations tend to repeat the same patterns, hopefully Oregon can just learn from this one.

Joe Brady, Coached one season in college football. Had 1st round draft choice at qb, and WR in 2020 draft. A 1st round draft choice in 2021 draft at WR. He looked really good with that talent. Before and after not so good. I would definitely ask Sean Payton what he thought, but I am skeptical about a one year wonder. Both Coach "O" and Brady are without jobs now that those guys are gone.

Good point, thanks for bringing that clarity to my shortsighted response! I do think my other concept is pretty spot on, we'll see.

If Mario is uncertain it will only take more time to create certainty, and the trend isn't our friend for that certainty. Sometimes fantasy and reality aren't the same, actually often it isn't. Mario spoke about how much he loved Oregon, but now he has a few years of knowing what it is like to live in Oregon and have your home in Florida. He wants to go back is what this process tells me. One of the big allures of Mario to recruits was his integrity and stability, that is shot. He better come back with an even better sales job after this is over or it is over. I just don't see it as from my experience trust is easily earned at first, but is a struggle to get back after losing it. I personally have lost a lot of trust in Mario going forward.

I think getting back on the hiring the next great coach merry go round just leads to a gutted program. Do we want that? I like everything Mario has said, but he hasn't delivered on what he has said. He didn't just add power football to our offense. In my experience people from Oregon say what they mean. I think Wilcox will say what he means and that would be refreshing. I don't want to go through another roller coaster ride with the same end result. We know what happens when the roller coaster ride ends.

Is this what we want to continue to be? Chip from the northeast leaves for the better job, Slick leaves for his dream job, Mario is undecided about going home. It is time to stop this merry go round.

The more I think about this the more I think we should have a campaign to get Wilcox hired. Mullens has already showed he can be swayed by the players, they got Mario hired. How about us fans making the case for an Oregon native, Duck Football Alumni as the next coach at Oregon, if Mario leaves? Oregon has a rich history of producing coaches. From John McKay, John Robinson and even Madden were Oregon Ducks. The problem is none of these guys ended up coaching at Oregon. It is time to see the beauty of what Oregon produces and creates. We produce talent and create winners. Time to take one of our own and make him and us a winner longterm. We should no longer chase after the next shiny thing. I know if Mario leaves I will be writing my two cents to Mullens, even if it is only worth two cents!

I think we have recently hired because of the words, and maybe a bit of the eye test. It is time to hire because of the heart. When you think of who has the heart of Oregon, and can coach there are few choices. Oregon has had connections to many great coaches in the past. USC can thank Oregon for over 230 of their wins from their Oregon connection. Few of this talent has ended up coaching at Oregon. It is time to bring one home so he can make that great history at Oregon