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Pains me to root for the Domers, but Clemson is toast.

Yes, I think this is the crux of the biscuit. After being leveraged by Taggart and snubbed by MC, loyalty will certainly be rewarded. The more successful DL becomes, the more offers he's going to get, that's just the nature of the business. That said no one's making a serious run at Saban or Smart or Whittingham for that matter, so if DL continues to say "pass, not interested" he could indeed be our guy.

Not all that far-fetched IMHO. The networks love blue bloods and to think they don't have a huge influence is just naive.

I think we all crave a return to the continuity we had during the Brooks/Bellotti years, but I'm not sure that's realistic given the ridiculous amount of money being thrown around. Yeah it sucks to have the national perception of Oregon being a "stepping stone" program and what we're really looking for is the best fit for Oregon, a combination of recruting, on-the-field performance and loyalty to the program. Granted that's a bit of a tall order, but I feel if we find that person then money won't be an issue because Mullens and Phil will probably come up with it. Is Lanning that guy? So far he seems to check all the boxes, but we all remember MC's "kicking and screaming" comments. A potential problem I see is that Mullens generally takes a graded, progressive approach to rewarding coaches financially. That could potentially make us vulnerable if a desperate school from the B1G or SEC comes in and waves $10 million/10 years at him. Are we willing to match? Good example with Mel Tucker, they may wind up buying him out soon.

Yeah that. Let them worry about ticket revenues, it's the TV money that counts and I agree that the LA schools rarely sell out, especially UCLA. It's embarassing when they have to block out sections with team graphics and the TV cameras are afraid to pan out.

Yep the old "eye test" which is code for whomever the powers that be want. I hope I'm wrong, but the Pac-12 is screwed unless TCU loses. Let's assume Clemson wins out, they aren't playing a ranked team the rest of the year. Either tOSU or Michigan goes undefeated, there's no real serious challenger outside of those two (yeah maybe Illinois, but not likely IMHO). If we have three undefeated conference champs (B12, ACC and B1G) they have to go and you know damn well the SEC champ is going unless maybe they have two losses (which I also think is unlikely). On our end we have to have a 12-1 champ that wins in impressive fashion. Sure there's a chance, but it's unlikely we control our own destiny.

Agree LSU way too high. No way they should be ranked over UCLA. Tennessee/Georgia huge this week, but I doubt we move up either way especially if Georgia loses there's no way we leap frog them after our ugly loss.

Never ever ever ever ever pulling for the Fuskies. Go Little Bro!

Bill Walton loves the Pac-12 and the west coast. Yes his diatribes are sometimes rambling and esoteric, but he is a real gem both athletically and culturally. I'm not sure his opinion changes anything, but you've got to give him credit for trying.

Too bad it didn't work out for him, I wouldn't think his situation was bad enough to make him quit the team mid-season, but I don't know the details so i don't judge. I was hoping the new transfer window rules would eliminate or reduce mid-season departures, but so far that doesn't seem to be the case.

Harsin was just a bad fit from day one, never did understand the hire. I wouldn't be surprised to see him land at ASU or maybe even Colorado.

The Cal game on the road had all the makings of a letdown game after a huge home win against UCLA. I'm not surprised at all that we were a little flat, but Cal games are always ugly. They have a solid defense, so even when their offense stinks (which it usually does), they manage to keep it close. Sure we didn't play our best game, but it was a 3-score road win against a team we historically struggle with. Progress is rarely linear. I would expect us to beat Colorado handily, the we come back to Autzen and the November stretch that will define our season. I guess we'll see soon enough, but I think we see continued improvement (especially on defense).

Boo hoo Lincoln Riley and welcome to the Pac-12, at least for now. Complaining about the refs here is like complaining about the wind on the coast. That said, every Pac-12 team has been the victim of an officiating blunder at one time or another, some costing the team a win (Ducks/Stanford 2021). Agree with JC, just fix it. We need full-time, professional refs. Pay them well and hold them accountable. It just blows me away that with all the TV and NIL money flowing freely we don't funnel a few extra bucks into the officiating.

Looks to me like our best case is still less than half what the B1G is getting per team. If I'm Mullens I'm looking for a short-term contract with an escape clause. IMHO the B12 has set the bar pretty low, thanks for that. Still don't like it, but if the B1G calls we have to go. That kind of income disparity is not sustainable.

Count me as one of the skeptics when Bo transferred, I just didn't see him as substantially better than AB (nothing against AB). As usual though I was cautiously optimistic and a maybe little caught up in the honeymoon period of a new coaching staff. One of the reasons we love college football is that it is so damn unpredictable and guess what coaches really do matter. The problem with Mario's status quo for me was that I just started to expect mediocre coaching, so when all of a sudden we get a coaching staff that really knows how to coach everything brightens up all of a sudden and Bo's emergence exemplifies that. Good for him.

LIttle brother--remember the Civil War (that's what is was then!) that was winner-take-all for the Rose Bowl? One of my best Autzen memories. WSU--I agree, keep it in the NW and we can root for them to trounce the Fuskies every year in the Apple Cup (well I guess we do that anyway). Furd--We've had some great games over the years, it's become one of our better rivalries.

Agree, that's why I think AQs are so important. At-large teams are selected using subjective criteria and it's just about impossible to eliminate bias.

Well I certainly hope you're right and this year's CFP selection committee looks reasonably balanced and diverse: 2022-23 Selection Committee Roster COLLEGEFOOTBALLPLAYOFF.COM The official 2022-23 Selection Committee Roster for the College Football Playoff That said, historically the makeup of the CFP hasn't been much different and they still have been biased towards the SEC, Clemson and the B!G.

Agree, no matter what scenario the SEC/B1G get over half the slots. Throw in ND any time they have a decent season, Clemson as a perennial contender and the Big-12 Champ going forward and that doesn't leave much left. We need AQ status to have consistent access and that only happens with 12 (or more) teams.

Clearly streaming is the lynchpin of the pending TV deal, if for no other reason that it means bringing in a second bidder. Without Amazon (or Apple) ESPN lowballs us and we really don't have much recourse. That said Amazon execs are no dummies, so they're unlikely to throw out a ridiculous amount just get some college football content, especially with a depleted Pac-12. We're not the NFL. Will they overpay some as an investment in the future? I sure hope so, but we've certainly got to temper our expectations, we're going to get nowhere near what the B1G just got.

Personally I think 8 would be about right except for one thing--the SEC will never allow automatic qualifiers with an 8-team playoff. An 8-team playoff of "the best teams" just turns into more of a ridiculous beauty contest than the CFP is now. The SEC goal is continued domination of the CFP, so they're willing to allow AQs as long as there are enough slots left for them to pad with more SEC teams. The B1G has newfound wealth and consequent power so this benefits them too. The proposed 12-team structure is about as good as we're going to get IMHO, but I don't see how we don't get to 16 not too far down the road. That's a lot of games, so there's still plenty of logistical hurdles and if they can't figure out a way to give draftable players enough financial incentive to stick around for another month it just turns into a series of exhibition games. My cynicism aside, the current CFP is merely BCS.2 so any expansion would be at least some improvement, and anything that gives us more access is certainly a step in the right direction.

Agree, we disrespect them all the time (and deservedly so) but this was one of their better officiated games this year.

Yeah that. Let's just dispense with the nonsense that the Pac-12 needs to have USC on top to be relevant, especially now that they are lame duck (sorry) members. If USC winds up winning the conference this year (or next) all we'll hear is how the Pac-12 collapses without them. We'll do just fine, thank you.

Sorry Spoiled Children, I just don't see what happens in a Big 12 game as being relevant to your loss at Utah. I didn't hear you complaining about the P12 refs resetting the game clock in the fourth quarter from 8 to 13 seconds with no real explanation.

Probably could have, but it's safer just to launch the ball out of bounds to burn the last few seconds. I was a little suprised though, that he didn't scramble a little on each kneel-down to burn off a few more seconds.