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Seems like under the current NIL/portal rules, hanging onto much experienced depth for current top ranked recruiters has become difficult for everybody. Saw this yesterday: Average age of roster (1-138): #93 Oregon (20.18) #114 Miami (20.06) #117 Alabama (20.04) #122 Texas A&M (20.01) #126 Notre Dame (19.97) #128 Ohio State (19.95) #134 Texas (19.86) #138 Georgia (19.81)

How about Ndamukong Suh? Born in Portland Oregon on January 6, 1987, Grant High School. 2009 AP College football player of the year, unanimous AA, won the Outland, Lombardi, Nagurski, and Bednarik Awards in 2009. NFL 1st round 2nd pick. NFL ROY. 5 time Pro Bowler, Super Bowl Champion. 640 tackles and 78.5 sacks regular and post-season over his 13 year career. Named in 2025 as a starting DL on AP's All-Time college football team with Huge Green, Randy White, and Bronko Nagurski. Bob Lilly for sure but also Jefferson High and Oregon Duck Mel Renfro. 1965 consensus All-American. 10 Pro Bowls and 2 Super Bowls. 1996 NFL HOF. Also a 1962 All-American at Oregon in the high hurdles and broad jump, helped lead Oregon to its first track and field National Championship (before hurting his knee in 1963).

"5- Star ATH Xavier Sabb reached 20.3 mph on this 100-yard pick 6, putting his IGA Score in the 87-96 range" 10.69 personal best in the 100m according to athletic.net. For those keeping track 🙂 (from publically available sources): Gatlin Bair: 10.15 Dakorian Moore: 10.40 Carl Williams IV: 10.49 Tradarian Ball: 10.51 Devon Jackson: 10.54 Evan Stewart: 10.58 CaDarius McMiller: 10.59 Hudson Lewis: 10.62 Semaj Stanford: 10.64 Brandon Smith: 10.67 Dorian Brew: 10.75 Trey McNutt: 10.82 Brandon Finney: 10.85 Koi Perich: 10.89 Davon Benjamin: 10.92 Jeremiah McClellan: 10.94 Jalen Lott: 10.99

To get to the upcoming announcements on Rivals YouTube channel for those hanging out for Tae, Hayden, and Gecova I was able to join the show from the link on this page (YouTube did not like the direct link). On3Rivals Summer Signing Day: Full commitment schedule, anno...Nine top prospects from around the country will announce their college decision on July 1 as part of the Rivals Summer Signing Day special.

I think we took a poke at this a while back? Since bringing the Georgia defense to Oregon, over four seasons, both Oregon and Georgia have exactly 122 total sacks. That is about 30.5 per year (Oregon had 30 in 2025-2026). In the last 8 seasons, Georgia has had between 20-37 sacks 7/8 times, the only outlier being the 2021 team that had 49 sacks, which famously had 4 future 1st round NFL draft picks on the DL: T.Walker, Wyatt, Davis, Carter and 2 future 1st round NFL draft picks at LB in: Q.Walker and N.Smith, plus a pair of future 3rd round picks: Dean, Channing. Oregon's front is pretty loaded this year, but 2021 Georgia was more like on the "all-time historical great kind of loaded" scale. On average, it suggests maybe 30-32 sacks per year should be expected from this D, based on the 12 seasons of data (in keeping with a philosophy that at its core is a lot of "bend-but-don't-break"). That isn't to say more sacks wouldn't be great, only maybe not what the scheme tends to normally generate. Advanced stats have "havoc rate", which is basically how much a defense is able to disrupt an offense by generating negative plays and pressure. It is somewhat hard to find, but one site that looks pretty good (cfdb) has the following numbers (generally a havoc rate of 20% or more is considered very good): Oregon: 2022: 15.1% 2023: 17.2% 2024: 19.3% 2025: 18.2% Georgia: 2022: 16.0% 2023: 17.1% 2024: 15.7% 2025: 15.1% For comparison, Indiana was 23.2% this year and 22.0% last year under Cignetti and Haines. Texas Tech was 23.3% this year with Bailey, Height, Hunter, and Rodriguez, after being at 13.7% the year prior. They further break the number into how much the front contributes to the havoc and Oregon's fronts have been: 7.8% 9.3% 11.5% 9.6% Georgia: 10.3% 9.7% 11.0% 8.1% Indiana's fronts have been 14.5% and 16.0% and Tech's 15.0% this last season. I think there might be some evidence in all this that Oregon and Georgia's scheme by design trades off less havoc (pressure) than someone like Indiana or Tech (for more safety on the back end). Borrowing from that great 2021 Georgia D (and all those sacks), its havoc rate was still only 20.2% and 12.1% for its front. Very good but not Indiana or Tech good. That may indicate having even great front players still trails behind an overall great pressure scheme (and huge jumps should likely be viewed as outliers). 🤷‍♂️ I could be wrong though 🙂🙂🙂

I haven't seen a lot of detailed breakdown on the 2026 OL yet this off-season; and, with all the shuffling around, the Spring game apparently didn't provide much insight. From what I've gathered, the OT situation is about the opposite of last season though. The replacement OT last year came in as solid run blockers with questions about consistency in pass protection (World with the ability to anchor against power rushers and Harkey with questions about lateral mobility against speed rushers). This year, both Crader and Gernorris (if it ends up being Wilson at RT), both come in with purported strong skill sets as pass blockers (with both so far considered greater works in progress as run blockers). While not exactly much evidence of anything, we do have one start by Gernorris against Iowa where he received an 82.8 PFF pass blocking grade (54.1 run blocking) and Crader 85.4 pass blocking (44.6 run blocking) against USC. So, maybe a small bit of confirming evidence? I think both Ponch and Luli have graded out well as pass blockers. Not sure about the other spot; but, if it is Utu, Tofi, or Iheanacho, it will be a giant (330+ pound) highly rated kid with strong feet. With Fox having up to three more years at LT, it sort of makes sense one of Tofi and Nacho starts out as a RT and the other OG? All could be shifted aroung down the road? It seems like the makings of an OL that has some struggles early on, getting everyone up in arms, but by the end if the year develops a lot. It could also be 5 OL starters all as original Duck HS recruits, without a transfer or JC. Maybe the first time since 2017? That is been put as a big plus in overall OL play in some analysis.

2004 against Oregon State 🙂

Tough to not pick Haloti. Running down a screen against 1,300 yard RB Wendell Mathis in 2005 at 340 pounds.

As well, if one were to put together a rough best-guess second team on defense, it would be 11/11 Blue Chip recruits, all top 275 nationally (247 Composite). Depth. Rushing (#45), Breyland (#58), Robinson (#262), Wyatt (#202), Nix (#178), Williams (#199), Offord (#17), Scott (#36), Woodyard (#116), McNutt (#73), Benjamin (#123).

This is a big one 🙂🙂

Good stuff. One of those questions that keeps coming up, but I don't know if there is a consensus answer? What has happened the last two seasons against Ohio State and Indiana in the playoffs? Not losing those games so much, but showing up and getting blasted. I have been looking at theories (better than rewatching the games) and I haven't found much so I have sort of settled on just simple physical and mental wear (and thus players being more susceptable to being injured or at least banged up). Two possible causes come to mind. • Long intense practices with regular hitting combined with what often appear to be many full day practice schedules The 2024 Jabbar Muhammed was quoted (who had been in practice systems at Oklahoma State and Washington before Oregon): "One thing I wanted to get better at was my physicality and you have no choice but to do that here, so it was a perfect match for me." When further asked about the difference in environments between Oregon and his other stops he said: "It's way different, you are hitting and rat-a-tat-tatting every single day, so it's much different. It's a tough schedule. It's legit all day. I know you see the Tik-Toks and everything, but our camp is really all day. It's lenient in some other programs, but this one is kinda tough." Anecdotally many have possibly noticed in series like Under Construction, Ducks versus Them, and Meet the Flock, there does appear to be a lot of time spent in a variety of activities and meetings. That could be in error, but it does match Muhammed's comments. Compared to maybe Curt Cignetti who has said any practice over 90 minutes is too long and a reported "go home" culture (rather than requiring players to be in the football facility constantly, he prefers short and organized meetings, and when the day's tasks are complete, telling the players and coaches to go home, recover, and recalibrate). There is a video of a former Cignetti player talking about sometimes 80 minute practices that never exceeded 1:50 and some practices being walk through only. The former Les Miles player interviewing says all their practice were in pads and M/H were always 2 to 2 1/2 hours and U/W were all 3 hours with full contact. There is another Cignetti video with Urban Meyer where he says he has never used more than 13 of his 15 allowed Spring practices and never used all 25 of his allowed Fall practices. He says simply "I'm trying to keep them fresh and healthy." Chip was also I believe known for preferring short-paced high energy practices, with Oregon being overall relatively healthy from 2009-2012, highlighted by only about a handful of lost starts from the 22 starters all of the 2010 run. • Air travel In 2024, when Oregon arrived at the Rose to play tOSU, it had put in 17,250 air miles on the season (with relatively short trips to Oregon State and UCLA). In 2025, Oregon arrived in Atlanta to meet Indiana with 24,280 air miles. Oregon's 5 away games in 2026 have 15,560 air miles. With post season travel, it again could be 20,000+. In 2027, Oregon's 5 B1G games require 13,400 air miles without the now replaced Waco trip. With the trip it would have been 16,700. In 2024, with tOSU having made the trip out to Eugene, had 7,555 air miles traveled at Rose Bowl kickoff to 17,250 for Oregon. The Eugene trip alone was 55% of their travel total. In 2025, despite Indiana also coming out to Eugene, it was 11,010 to 24,280. Indiana's trip to Eugene trip plus their Rose Bowl trip to play Alabama was 67% of their total. Pure fan message board kind of talk, hope the staff is looking at how much time is spent on things and weighing the longer term benefit of dialing it back a bit? Especially when considering being stuck with all the flight miles. If the season is going to go from August to the middle of January, maybe get them some more rest and kick them out of the facility more at least through October (first 8 games). I don't consider this a DL fault, maybe a still younger coach with a lot of energy, that naturally sees the time available and wants to thrown in anything he thinks will help, when the best help might just be boring old free time and rest. Again fan perception, in late September Dan had the team with its hair on fire ready to run through a brick wall in State College for Penn State. By January 9 in Atlanta, it really looked different: flat, banged up, and even Dan looked a bit subdued and even tired in his pregame interview. That and 7,600 air miles flown over like 9-10 days to get to Miami and back and then back down to Atlanta for the Peach Bowl kickoff.

$1.6 million and $850,000? Ok, goodness. Interesting definition of "spending" and "going all in" from Canzano. I had to dig up the clip. It doesn't seem like making outrageous offers (I guess Trent was making about $2 million in the end and Tinkle $3 million). I suppose use Canzano at your own peril? 🫤 https://www.instagram.com/reel/DXAzqDEDyXm/ (need to click on "Continue on web") Trigger warning: Canzano 🙂

Well that was an interesting post I made last night. My first OBD's pocket post? 🙂 I was contemplating asking if anyone else found the whole timing of the Oregon State AD thing a bit weird? Now, I don't follow Oregon State that closely anymore; but, it seems like they had been sort of nudging Barnes out the door for a while now? The Trent Bray hire, sticking with 176-206 Tinkle for so long (with two 4th place finishes tops over 12 years), the rowing coach wrongful termination lawsuit, the controversial Blueprint NIL deal, and so on. Why let your departing AD pick your new football head coach and basketball head coach on his way out the door? It seems a bit odd to make the commitment to a younger more out-of-the-box AD (which is fine, maybe even good); but, then saddle him with two first time head coaches he didn't have a hand in selecting? I think I recall Canzano (I know Canzano) reporting Barnes also opened the pocket book up for both these hires? Seems like an even worse situation for the young AD. Spending freely on what Canzano essentially called a "Barnes legacy play" that the new AD not only has to fund, but might not even be his guys. I know when head coaching jobs become open, a school can't exactly wait around for it to sort out its AD situation; but, you know, 8-9 months ago, it does seem like the possibility of two new HC hires was on the horizon. Maybe my reading of the situation is off?

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I don't get it either. It certainly understand it is pretty tough for Oregon State (and WSU) dropping to the G6; but, you know, here we are. Top programs really aren't passing on one extra home game's worth of revenue to play a 1-for-1s or even a 2-for-1s with G6 teams anymore. Ohio State isn't signing up for 1-for-1 with a MAC team, Alabama isn't signing up for a 1-for-1 with a Sun Belt team. The last 25 seasons, I don't think Georgia has played a single OOC road game against a G6 opponent. I think Ohio State has had one, a weird 1-for-1 with Navy (and the Navy home game was played in Baltimore's NFL stadium). Alabama has had one, a weird 2-for-1 with South Florida (and the USF home game was played in Tampa Bay's NFL home stadium). Michigan has had one, a weird 1-1 with UConn (where they tried to move the UConn home portion to MetLife or Gillette and UConn refused). Texas used to sign a bunch of 2-for-1s and 1-for-1s but stopped about 15 years ago when they got tired of return games in the likes of Laramie (Wyoming), El Paso (UTEP), and New Orleans (Tulane) for a one time OOC home game. Since the 2009 game in Laramie, I think Texas has only had one G6 OOC road game, and that was a 2-for-1 with BYU (if being Independent back then counted as G6). If Oregon State returns to the P4, I could possibly see an argument (not unlike Georgia-Georgia Tech or Florida State-Florida). Until then, going 1-for-1 with the G6 isn't thinking like the rest of the programs you aspire to keep pace with (Georgia, Ohio State, Michigan, Texas, and so on). LSU? One OOC G6 road game since 2001 (Tulane in 2007 as part of a 3-for-1).

Makes you wonder where the AD has been? Seems like as an AD you have to be either all-in or all-out with your football/basketball HC? If there is money for a basketball GM, if you are Altman, why would you turn down the help? Odd.

It will be interesting to see. I've been thinking about it and I think it comes down a bit to Dan, at his core, being a (relatively) conservative coach on both sides of the ball (not unlike Kirby). I think Dan being young, coming from that 2021 Georgia team with its dominant high havoc/pressure rate defense, and going for it on 4th down a lot early at Oregon has led, in part, to a greater perception of Dan as a risk-taker. Instead, the "Oregon Offense" Mehringer references is largely an efficiency offense that runs the ball, distributes the ball to its players in space, tries to limit TOs, and tries to beat people with overall talent. Dan still does the 4th down thing a fair amount; but, I've always though it was more about a calculation of which side of the ball he trusts more, than a desire to play risky. Early on, he trusted his offense more than his defense and probably felt getting 2 yards on 4th down was a better bet than his defense holding up. Against Texas Tech, maybe it was more the opposite, he saw he could trust his defense enough that going for it to land the knockout score wasn't really a huge risk. I'm yelling at the TV "punt the damn ball they obviously aren't driving 80 yards for a score today" while Dan is thinking, if I go for it and score, the game is going to be out of reach, so the rest won't matter, and if we fail, our defense still is likely to hold. The defense IMO has always been heavily "bend-but-don't-break", five DBs, mixing cover 2 and cover 3, 6 man boxes, limited traditional blitzing. That 2021 Georgia defense was just so loaded with guys beating people up one-on-one with superior talent, it looked like the product of an aggressive scheme when it was at its core a pretty safe scheme with a bunch of future NFL guys winning their battles. With the talent at QB and WR, there is almost no way there won't be more explosives from the passing game. I think it likely won't be scheme change but having a bunch of future NFL guys making more plays in the passing game than abandoning the base philosophy. Plus, I think deep down Dante's wired with a bit of that gunslinger in him. It's interesting to see how Indiana does this year because I see Cignetti as a bit more of a calculated risk taker. Compared to the early 2010s, I think overall college football coaching is back to being more conservative (so Dan isn't alone).

This breakdown of Tommy Tofi's Spring game I thought was very encouraging. (Not sure if link is working. It comes up if one searches YouTube for Landon Tengwall)

257 players drafted. P4 schools: 239 players G6 schools: 13 players FCS: 4 players International: 1 player

I think the two misses were both from over 50 yards, he was good from 35 and 45. I think Hurych is thought to have a bit more leg than Sappington, today might have been the staff examining/testing that out? I think Sappington was only the third UO kicker to finish his career with an 80%+ career FG percentage in the last 50 years, so back-to-back would be a nice step.

Early line? Combat Ducks: -3.5 🙂

Lists at 5-11 and 180, about the same size as Jadon Canady (5-11 and 185)? Some similarities between Stanford's recruiting profile and Canady's draft profile. Nickel CB? Stanford: • Plays physical with wiry strength above listed size • Displays sudden acceleration in a variety of situations, pairing that with high-level awareness and anticipatory skill • Also shows quick-twitch redirection, whether running routes or breaking on throws • Boasts strong track numbers in the 60, 100, and 200 meter sprints: 10.71/22.06 Canady: • Twitch for short-area corrections to smother routes, sticky man coverage corner • Speed to deter throws over the top, speed in his backpedal and half-turn... quick to trigger and close on routes breaking in front, closing burst • Falls below most traditional size thresholds... Canady makes up for those shortcomings with his twitch, which allows him to stay sticky • All-State performer in track and field. He finished fourth in the 300-meter hurdles at the 3A state track meet in the 300-meter hurdles in 2019

I was thinking about that 2022 Oregon-Georgia game because, at the time, by typical "roster composition" measures, the teams didn't appear to be miles apart. Georgia was #2 and Oregon was #7. Maybe a belief Cristobal had closed the gap in recruiting and 51 overall blue chips to 68 didn't seem like a huge gap? After the blowout, a deeper dive showed, while Cristobal had improved recruiting, it still wasn't a lot of top 50 recruits. It also wasn't a lot of top 100 recruits. It was more a lot of guys ranked around 150-380 boosting the grade. Georgia in 2022 was a different story. At kickoff: Georgia: Top 50 recruits: 20 Top 100 recruits: 33 Their top 50 guys ranked: #1, #4, #4, #5, #8, #11, #17, #18, #19, #23, #24, #26, #27, #28, #33, #35, #36, #38, #45, and #46. Oregon: Top 50 recruits: 7 Top 100 recruits: 12 Their top 50 guys ranked: #6, #13, #16, #31, #33, #40, and #41 Today, Oregon has 19 top 50 recruits and 27 top 100 recruits (in this new era where stockpiling and stashing talent arguably has become more difficult).

Added to the group Texas, Alabama, and LSU. Based on most likely suggested fall two deeps, I've got the 6 highest rated two-deep rosters: Georgia: 9 five star, 20 top 100, 38 blue chips Oregon: 9 five stars, 18 top 100, 37 blue chips Texas: 11 five stars, 17 top 100, 31 blue chips Ohio State: 6 five stars, 17 top 100, 39 blue chips Alabama: 8 five star, 16 top 100, 35 blue chips LSU: 6 five stars, 11 top 100, 32 blue chips TEXAS: QB: Manning (#1) / Lacey (#156) RB: Brown (#42) / Smothers (#379) WR: Coleman (#5) / Lockett (#18) WR: Wingo (#39) / Berkhalter (UR) WR: Mosley (#500) / McCutcheon (#103) TE: Masunas (#1053) / Townsend (#90) OL: Goosby (#414) / Chatman (#194) OL: Seymore (#183) / Sikorski (#1391) OL: Robertson (#601) / Christian (#606) OL: Baker (#32) / Cajoe (#824) OL: Siani (UR) / Coleman (#750) DE: Jackson (#21) / Terry (#12) DT: Terry (#129) / Johnson (#104) DT: Watson (#1220) / Sharma (#218) DE: Simmons (#18) / Orogbo (#104) LB: T.Smith (#350) / Atkinson (#30) LB: Biles (#922) / Cryar (#1014) CB: Mascoe (#846) / Roberson (#257) CB: Phillips (#27) / Black (#34) S: D.Williams (#49) / Filsaime (#37) S: McDonald (#70) / Johnson-Ruboll (#206) S: Littleton (#65) / Mack (#149) ALABAMA: QB: Russell (#3) / Mack (#73) RB: Hill (#121) / Riley (#136) WR: Williams (#8) / Scott (#303) WR: Morgan (#43) / Meadows (#126) WR: Brooks (#185) / Rogers (#54) TE: Pritchett (#286) / Edwards (#163) OL: Carroll (#12) / Miller (#16JC) OL: Sanders (#313) / Fields (#1097) OL: Delgatty (#2179) / Strayhorn (#519) OL: James (#2319) / Waldrep Jr (#365) OL: Lloyd (#45) / Brooks (#239) DE: Thompkins (#636) / Umeozulu (#146) DT: Green (#254) / Bingley-Jones (#152) DE: Simmons (#514) / E.Hill (#192) ED: Pierre (#31) / J.Hill (#60) LB: Reese (#841) / Metz (#288) LB: Woodson (#922) / Jones (#272) CB: Brown (#30) / Edmonds (#28) CB: Sabb (#96) / Taylor (#62) S: Hubbard (#316) / Miney (#27) S: Lee (#14) / McDonald (#51) S: Morgan (#294) / Kirkpatric Jr (#866) LSU: QB: Leavitt (#313) / Longstreet (#25) RB: Berry (#15) / Durham (#88) WR: Wilson (#109) / Watkins (#167) WR: Harris (#695) / Holloway (UR) WR: JBrown (#1403) / TBrown (#89JC) TE: Green (#105) / M.Thomas (#1591) OL: Seaton (#13) / Thomas (#41) OL: Bah (#353) / Thompkins (#627) OL: Moore (#748) / Satterwhite (#211) OL: Harper (#131) / Strey (#449) OL: Davis (#111) / Jones (#115JC) DE: Umanmielen (#218) / Ross (#22) DT: Green (#115) / Woods (#1749) DT: McKinley (#14) / Blocton (#434) DE: Reliford (#224) / J.Brown (#282) LB: Weeks (#154) / Keys (#402) LB: Dottery (#227) / Singleton (#151) CB: Pickett (#11) / J.Jackson (#56) CB: Woodland (#506) / Turner (#392) S: Cooley (#990) / Delane (#55) S: Spears (#96) / Jimcoily (#388) S: Benefield (#982) / Thomas (#355)

To date: • possible good news is Oregon is sitting with the current #7 portal in class • possible bad news is it lost the portal's #18 and #41 rated players and has replaced them with the #74 and #164 rated players (Dezdrick Lindsay and Pharaoh Compton both UR - 247 ratings)