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Marsh Duck Monday - The Ducks Need to Unleash the Vertical Passing Game

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Happy Labor Day Monday,

Lots has already been discussed about the BSU game but I do believe this will be the x-factor the Ducks will need to take advantage of this season.

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The Ducks Need to Unleash the Vertical Passing Game

Oregon survived Boise State a team that seems to bring out the worst in the Ducks.

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Thank you, David.

Lasso the Cowboys!

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Those behind the line side passes fail most of the time and receivers are usually tackled before the line of scrimmage.

Why do coaches insist on using them?

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4 minutes ago, 1Ducker1 said:

Those behind the line side passes fail most of the time and receivers are usually tackled before the line of scrimmage.

Why do coaches insist on using them?

They are an extension of the run game. Getting a player into space with the ball in their hands. It worked fantastic for Chip and company but defenses have know how to defend in space and if they can tackle in space then it's easy to slow down an offense..

It also felt like there were some missed blocking assignments on the perimeter on Saturday as well. Lock down those assignments and I think they work better.

But open up the vert passing game and the defense can't play so close to the line of scrimmage.

I'm not advocating getting rid of short passes because sometimes getting small chunks is all you can get... But those vertical passes were deadly and we need to see more of them.

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38 minutes ago, David Marsh said:

Happy Labor Day Monday,

Lots has already been discussed about the BSU game but I do believe this will be the x-factor the Ducks will need to take advantage of this season.

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The Ducks Need to Unleash the Vertical Passing Game

Oregon survived Boise State a team that seems to bring out the worst in the Ducks.

Excellent article. Thank you.

If our O Line figures it out and can give DM a little time, we will be making a lot of teams pay with 25+ yard strikes downfield this season.

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David, an element that could help unleash the vertical passing game is what Scott Reed brought up in his analysis today. Once Jordon Davison got going in the ground game, the Broncos had to defend the box better, which left one on one coverage by the Boise State defensive backs.

So getting Davison involved earlier might actually open up the vertical game as you suggest.

And I completely agree with you!

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Great points by all.....

Some of the basic keys to a successful, high scoring offense:

A defense that gets the

ball back to their offense

(Come on D, more 3rd

down stops)

Keeping the opposing

defense off balance and

on their heels.

An offensive line that

opens holes for the RB's,

pass protects for the QB

and fires off the ball.

And a QB who is a threat

to run the ball to keep

the defense honest.

(Only when playing

USC, tOSU, Udub and

in the playoffs.)

These are obvious comments. The more the Ducks handle these basic moves as a team, the more points go on the board.

Go Ducks....open a can of but kick on the Cowboys.

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Anyone with two brain cells can understand Dante's arm talent and our fast high possession receivers means the greatest success passing will be a down field attack.

The problem is Kenny Dillingham designed a high efficiency offense around Bo Nix' strengths, and Dan Lanning has been smitten by that play calling approach ever since.

If Dillingham were our OC today he would have designed a very different offense for the players we have now. But Dan doesn't think like that. We know that because the very first season with the wrong players for the system that Kirby ran at Georgia, he ran that system anyways.

It's honestly impressive to see that MC at Miami has finally let go of his offensive philosophy and let the OC cook. Hopefully Dan gets there quicker than Mario.

If Mehringer is truly a data driven mad scientist then he'll evaluate the success rates he is having, regardless of execution perfection and come to his own conclusions about what works best with players he has, not the players he wishes he had.

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Finally got to watch the game and from the looks of it this game would look very different if it wasn't for one blatant missed call and a couple really stupid penalties.

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3 hours ago, Solar said:

Anyone with two brain cells can understand Dante's arm talent and our fast high possession receivers means the greatest success passing will be a down field attack.

The problem is Kenny Dillingham designed a high efficiency offense around Bo Nix' strengths, and Dan Lanning has been smitten by that play calling approach ever since.

If Dillingham were our OC today he would have designed a very different offense for the players we have now. But Dan doesn't think like that. We know that because the very first season with the wrong players for the system that Kirby ran at Georgia, he ran that system anyways.

It's honestly impressive to see that MC at Miami has finally let go of his offensive philosophy and let the OC cook. Hopefully Dan gets there quicker than Mario.

If Mehringer is truly a data driven mad scientist then he'll evaluate the success rates he is having, regardless of execution perfection and come to his own conclusions about what works best with players he has, not the players he wishes he had.

Yet, under Dan and his assistants, the Ducks' record is 49-8 (.860).

Solar, my friend, let the sunshine in. 😁

Would the record be better under Dilly? Perhaps. But other than a first-season loss to Oregon State, Dan and friends have lost only to quality teams.

Boise State is a nemesis, not just to Dan, but to the Oregon program. Check out Alabama's record vs Georgia and Kirby Smart, and Michigan's record vs Ryan Day. Stuff happens.

A close win in Week 1 will not matter come the PO committee's Top 25 reveal on 12/6/26. I think Boise State will finish in the Top 25 and be the PO G6 representative.

Love your posts and comments, and congrats on the Week 1 prediction contest.

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8 hours ago, David Marsh said:

They are an extension of the run game.

Maybe so but its not the same as running between the tackles. Its not phyical and does not ware the defense.

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10 hours ago, 1Ducker1 said:

Those behind the line side passes fail most of the time and receivers are usually tackled before the line of scrimmage.

Why do coaches insist on using them?

I usually agree. This time, it was AWESOME tackling... Both saved TDs in my opinion.

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10 hours ago, David Marsh said:

They are an extension of the run game. Getting a player into space with the ball in their hands. It worked fantastic for Chip and company but defenses have know how to defend in space and if they can tackle in space then it's easy to slow down an offense..

It also felt like there were some missed blocking assignments on the perimeter on Saturday as well. Lock down those assignments and I think they work better.

But open up the vert passing game and the defense can't play so close to the line of scrimmage.

I'm not advocating getting rid of short passes because sometimes getting small chunks is all you can get... But those vertical passes were deadly and we need to see more of them.

Very good article David. As was the quick synopsis after the game.

I've been looking for the vertical game since we took down the Buckeyes in Eugene. Not to mention that is Moore's most decisive throw. He releases that ball well before he's pressured.

I also believe the slots and TEs can force the safeties to pick their poison

Did anyone see Merringer pull out Max Protection? He did call a very good game. My first impression of the game was " here we go". My second look was " oh we've got this in the bag".

Sans mistakes the game was a sure blowout. Gotta give Boise credit- it was their Superbowl.

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7 hours ago, Charles Fischer said:

David, an element that could help unleash the vertical passing game is what Scott Reed brought up in his analysis today. Once Jordon Davison got going in the ground game, the Broncos had to defend the box better, which left one on one coverage by the Boise State defensive backs.

So getting Davison involved earlier might actually open up the vertical game as you suggest.

And I completely agree with you!

I thought the same. And I believe the TE/RB/WR booking will be key to springing an explosive running game this year. The OL isn't agile enough to handle some of the Elite Front Seven groups they'll face. They're going to need help.

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Some missed blocking assignments?

Boise State's D was coached to expect many short passes; nevertheless, the WR blocking on the short throws was MIA.

In their blocking assignments, the WRs looked to be a step slow, but I expect the blocking will improve in Week 2 and as the season continues.

There are no CFB preseason games. Opening against a No. 28 preseason-ranked and top-ranked G6 opponent is more difficult than the competition most of the preseason Top 25 teams faced in Week 1.

This season, Boise State has a good chance of finishing 12-1.

The Portland State Vikings need the money. And until CFB goes to a 24-team PO, start every season against Portland State in Autzen Stadium.

Rob Mullens has Oregon's athletic department in the black, huzzah! But last Saturday, Autzen would have been packed for a game against Linfield.

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