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Offensive Line Depth Chart: Where's the Problem?

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Here's the O line depth chart as listed in the forum links. I'm no O line expert so I don't know if some of the names aren't actually in this order or are injured or playing different positions than listed. But with that said based on this info. Where is the problem?

Left Tackle

Addison (So) 4 Star

"Nacho" (Fr) 5 Star

Left Guard

Utu (So) 5 Star

Rogers (Sr) 3 Star

Center

Laloulu (Sr) 4 Star

Brooks (Jr) 4 Star

Right Guard

Iuli (Sr) 4 Star

Bennet (Sr) 3 Star

Manning (So) 4 Star

Right Tackle

Crader (Jr) 4 Star

Tofi (Fr) 4 Star

Wilson (Sr) 3 Star

Stascausky (So) 4 Star

Again, where's the problem? Sure there could be a bust here or there. That happens all the time but this roster is chalked full of 4-5 star guys clear across the line in the two deep. With this much talent you should be able to field a competent squad.

If it's not the players then it has to be the coaching. Then I'd need it explained to me how the same coach that has put together award finalist lines year after year has suddenly forgotten how to do it. That just doesn't make sense.

That would then lead to the plays being called. Are the schemes so bad that a star studded line with an elite coach all of a sudden can't block themselves out of a wet paper bag? What gives?

I'm much more confused than angry. Can anyone explain the problem? The math just isn't mathing in my brain.

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Star rating??? Raiola was a 5 star, did he look like that yesterday to you? Did any of those linemen look 4 star?

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3 minutes ago, 1Ducker1 said:

Star rating??? Raiola was a 5 star, did he look like that yesterday to you? Did any of those linemen look 4 star?

Non of it looks even 1 star and that's the question. It's hard to believe ten 4/5 star guys have all been so highly over rated. Even if some are, it's hard to believe you couldn't piece together a decent line out ten 4/5 star guys. It's hard to believe a coach with as much success as Terry couldn't get good results with 3 star guys. It's all hard to believe which is why I pose the question.

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I hate to say it but with all the non mathing math, it feels like the coaching staff is just cashing checks and mailing it in. It also feels like the highly paid NIL guys are doing the same. With NIL not being tied to actual performance, this has always been the danger in this scenario.

Three out of four of Oregon's next games will be against two dangerous up and coming teams (Nebraska and Northwestern) and an old school road grader (tOSU). Things could get real ugly fast.

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Raiola, after pinpointing passes again USC, could not hit the broad side of a barn yesterday. How a guy with his talent played that way is unexplainable.

Dante, even healthy, has problems when pressured and lacks some aggressiveness.

Both QB's are talented.

The bottom line to me, I suspect this team is loaded with talent but has some really lousy coaching.

For a program that is looking for a NC to obtain blue blood elite status....it is a shame because these type teams don't come every year.

7 turnovers.....seriously!

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Wasn't there a heavy turnover from last year, thus a lack of experience and, from that, a lack of unity?

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Geoff Schwartz was talking about the O-line on his Sunday morning radio show.

Essentially he said every play on offense there was at least one mental error/missed assignment. He indicated the coaches were frustrated during the game because as soon as they pulled someone for screwups, someone else would screw up. It wasn't like they could fix the problem by pulling one guy who was having a bad game.

So, who is responsible for the mental discipline of individual players when apparently so many of them were having screwups?

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I suspect NIL issues are central to this conundrum. As others on this forum have mentioned, dealing with paid players (some much more lucratively than others) is entirely new for college coaches, and creates a whole new set of issues to work out. (Like, "Why is the guy next to me on the o-line making double what I'm making?" or, "Why is he rich and I'm broke?") Compound this with new coordinators on both sides of the ball, and you have a recipe for an overwhelmed coaching staff.

Anyway, that's my opinion for what might be going on with the offensive line play—that and the fact that most of OBD o-linemen look weak, slow, and unmotivated.

Go Ducks.

Edited by John Charles

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Came across this one. It isn't pretty. It is one play from the game, but if you are willing to "continue watching" and open it up in X (then hit the "X" to get rid of the pop up), it scrolls to nine examples of the OL from the game.

Edited by AnotherOD

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8 minutes ago, AnotherOD said:

Came across this one. It isn't pretty. It is one play from the game, but if you are willing to double tap or click "continue watching" and open it up in X (then hit the "X" to get rid of the pop up), it scrolls to nine examples of the OL from the game.

I watched 2 examples and couldn't take any more--SHAMEFUL!!

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It's coaching, it comes down to coaching, Terry should be fired...today! He hasn't developed lineman at all, it's as simple as that. I don't buy any of this stuff about NIL being problem, it's not a problem at Ohio St., it's not a problem at Georgia, why should it be a problem here. We have a lot of coaches who just aren't very good at developing talent.

I would say the QB, O-line, LBs, and both coordinators should be on the hot seat.

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Concerning 2026, it all starts with the decision made with the OL in the offseason.

The new Duck OC could be bad; but, a lot of stuff should still be working with a decent OL (and we should just be complaining about the new OC for overall lackluster numbers, rather than the collapse we have seen).

The Duck OL looked confused at times last year with a 6th year senior, a 5th year senior, a 5th year senior, a 4th year junior, and a 3rd year sophomore (with 15 starts).

What did it expect to see throwing in a bunch of young guys: Addison, Crader, Utu, Ferguson, Wilson, and veteran backup Rogers (a group with two career starts and very few overall meaningful snaps)? To make this move, the staff must have had a sky-high a degree of confidence in them before making that decision (which in hindsight seems even more odd given the Spring game struggles on the OL with the clear star of the day being a true freshman).

Given the lack of portal interest in OL from Oregon, clearly a decision was made there was full confidence the young guys were ready to be at least a decent quality OL for a Top 10 team.

I thought the Yale kid at first (since he was about the only OL target) might have been an Ajani Cornelius type (who was one of the FCS's most highly regarded young players before Oregon); but, no, he was just more veteran depth and insurance in the mold of a Nisad Strother (who arguably actually saved the OL in 2024 so is why a staff does such things).

There was some buzz maybe it wasn't the greatest OL classes in the portal this year. Even if true overall, it doesn't mean there weren't a number of decent guys out there. In this case, veterans with experience in solid programs, which would have given the OL a massively higher floor. You give the Ducks the often maligned healthy pair of Harkey and World back, and I am pretty confident the Ducks are 5-0.

Portal experienced talent that was available for 2026? Just among the top of one list:

Jordan Seaton (JR/Colrado) : 22 starts (now LSU)

Jacarrius Peak (5th SR/NC State): 31 starts (now SC)

Lance Heard (SR/Texas): 24 starts (now UK)

Coleton Price (5th SR/Boston College): 30 starts (now UK)

Xavier Chaplin (5th SR/Auburn): 37 starts (now FSU)

Melvin Siani (SR/Wake Forest):  27 starts (now Texas)

Tegra Tshabola (5th SR/Ohio State): 29 starts (now UK)

E'Marion Harris (5th SR/Arkansas): 24 starts (now Okla)

Joe Brunner (5th SR/Wisconsin): 24 starts (now Indiana)

Aliou Bah (5th SR/Maryland): 24 starts (now LSU)

Emmanuel Poku (5th SR/E. Carolina): 26 starts (now SC)

Now, obviously the Ducks couldn't have gotten them all; but, some? A couple? Kentucky found a way to sign 3 of the top 8. We seen the struggles at LG all season? What happens if instead Oregon had Tshabola plugged in there? I know he was a bit of a controversial figure at tOSU, but his 29 career starts and a bunch of big games, I am sure elevates what we have seen at that spot so far almost immeasurably.

Instead, Oregon went for a high profile backup QB, a high profile safety (who at least so far hasn't had the expected impact for the defense), a backup DL (who hasn't played much), and a backup WR (who hasn't played at all).

Stein faced a similar huge question mark on his OL and went out and got four portal OL starters (which often is considered a recipe for complete disaster); and, have surprised everyone starting 5-1 with its OL being singled out as a huge reason for its success (reading a couple articles).

Oregon fans are not only left wishing for Kentuckly level OL play, we probably are wishing for Oregon State or Oklahoma State (built with North Texas transfers) level of OL competence (which we likely probably will only continue to dream about the rest of the way).

Edited by AnotherOD

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Everyone here is so negative. Look at the bright side, they did give themselves a really cool nickname "The Law Firm."

Being serious, what everyone here is bringing up can't be overstayed. Terry owns these results. These are his players that he "developed (or didn't as it seems). No portal transfers developed by other coaches to really lean on.

Terry needs to go.

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