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Didn't consider it. If that is the case, the coaches are in trouble. And why is that the case when the other two are killing it?

I don't. But I have had reservations about the scheme on defense since before Ohio State embarrassed OBD. But I think the offense isn't really that bad. I'll keep it short. It looks like Lanning is concerned about pass coverage. The scheme is built to defend passing offenses. Here's the problem. A Four man front against six in the box neutralizes all that front 4 talent. In fact, sliding your ends inside as a strategy completely opens the edges up. That scheme is a major flaw. Also, I don't subscribe to 2 linebackers and two safeties as my solution to stopping running plays. And believe me, if I see this, you bet every elite coach wants to play Oregon right now. On offense-Dante Moore plays favorites. He is not reading the field. Gaitlin Bair was open on a Mesh Rout concept and Moore threw to McClellan short (dropped pass that wouldn't have converted on third down anyway). Dante Moore has to be comfortable. He is not going to throw receivers open-he just doesn't want to. Of course I would diagram this and show tape-but nobody wants to look at OBD when we lose. Once the season settles in I will show EXACTLY what I see. It is disturbing. The strategy Lanning wants to employ is simple to solve. Coaches are adjusting to some real sophisticated and evolutionary stuff in real time. College coaches are using NFL strategy. And they are killing it. I believe Kirby Smart may be heading the same way. He doesn't have a talent issue like Lanning has (sloppy DB coverage, ineffective OL play-which just might be coaching though). Football is becoming very interesting. I see moves and counter moves Lanning is either ignoring, or he doesn't believe it effects his ability to win. That isn't the case at the elite level for sure. And believe me, there are plenty of coaches at the G6 level that grasp the evolution of the game. I will show you guys lots of things I've learned this summer. The last thing I will say is this: the players don't seem to believe they are good enough. They are wilting in the face of teams that are hungry. The coaches are assuming things will evolve to the degree they don't have to adjust to the conditions on the ground. That is a HUGE mistake. They can't throw out all they schemed for this season, but they don't seem to realize teams know just about everything they will do. OBD are simply talented enough to win plays anyway most of the time. Now remember-I'm just a hack. I have coached semi pro ball, and it was difficult to say the least. Especially since the players completely believed they could just show up and play totally unprepared. In my studies this summer, I found out why coaches approach the game as they do. That was interesting as well, It takes an extreme amount of dedication and flexibility to excel at this game.

You will not believe your eyes when you watch the replay...

Um, four of those quarters our defense pitched a shutout. JMU was totally on the scrubs. But it sure looks like the scrubs are no worse than the starters at this point. I truly wonder what the team is going through. The level of performance has fallen worse than a meteor. And the loss feels just as catastrophic as an impact on the planet. So the question is what will it take to look like they did when they bounced Texas Tech. Or better yet, how can they duplicate the performance in November 2024, but just obliterate teams. I surely hope this team plays their rear-ends off in Los Angeles. I don't even care if they win or lose. I just want to see some intensity, some nastiness, and if it takes running highlights of Dick Butkus and Ray Lewis, play those films until we see it on the field. Even if they don't push people back, I want to hear pads cracking.

I sure hope EVERYBODY THAT HAS MADE A NEGATIVE COMMENT IS STILL COMMENTING IN DECEMBER. Stand by your Ducks. Horrible performance or not. What is everyone going to do if this team goes 6-6? They look horrible. Guess what, my first Oregon game was 0-63. This team is nowhere near that pit. I truly hope our fan base NEVER becomes as insufferable as other programs that win and expect national championships every year. Right now-OBD suck. Plain and simple. Who cares how good we were last year-it never transfers to the following year. EVER. So forget about the talent. Forget about what we have been the past 3 years. Don't worry about the coaches. They don't play the game. These players either believe they are elite, or they don't. It will show up in how they play the rest of the season. At this moment, scheme doesn't matter. Culture doesn't matter. Coaching doesn't matter. In case you haven't noticed, the level and excellent coaching in college football is far more elite than it ever has been. All the way down to FCS level. Oklahoma State threw stuff at OBD like Cignetti did TWICE last year. And it isn't because Dan Lanning can't coach. It is because coaches are spending maximum time figuring out how to stop these elite teams. I saw Dante Moore wince when he had a TD pass, then later throw the same pass for 20 plus yards. We saw elite WRs drop FIVE passes. One of them was simply jumping to catch the pass and score a TD. You cannot throw the passes for Dante Moore. You cannot go on the field like Woody Hayes did and punch a player. Your players have to do the pummeling. And at the moment, this team is not mean and nasty. This team is not hungry. This team isn't running through walls. Experts are calling OBD wusses. And they were being kind. You might not like the coaches, but I guarantee you, NONE OF US can go on that field and call a better game. NOT ONE. Do I want to see a different scheme-HELL YES. But it is not my team. Now I might be brash enough and start showing everything I am pretty sure coaches already know about our coaching staff-but the entire team must decide who they are and what they want to do the rest of this season. We should be there for them because FEBU is unacceptable. The team should not have to tell the fans to take a hike.

I am not sure this is entirely on the coaches. The players are sleep walking THIS SEASON. I don't think Spring Games lie. The OL is playing like they did five months ago. The Coaches mentioned this is a player led team. That is saying lots about the players right now. Whatever it is, this is not looking like a playoff caliber team-the performance is not adding up to a very good team You can draw up the perfect game plan. You can tell this team to throw away the rat poison. You cannot play the game for your players. These players are playing with no intensity. That is not a coaching issue. That is a player issue. Furthermore, the OL is just bad. They are getting worse. If you don't win the LOS, you don't win the game. It is very apparent. The Spring Game showed a lot of concern for this team. If your OL is giving up sacks to its own defense, which isn't even playing well so far this year, it will not play against teams hyped to take this team down

dropped pass for a TD doesn't help... something is up with this team... can't believe my eyes

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I hadn't seen the entire game before you, FishDuck (OBD Duck?) and David ( Marsh ) had posted articles. The three of you calmed me a good deal. I am extremely happy we played this kind of matchup. I even wish we played LSU, Ohio State or Texas. Why? Everything gets revealed and fantasy disappears immediately. Thanks Scott for a great set of articles. You too ODB(Fish) Duck. David simplified some key observations. And Solar, you've got some great thoughts as well. Can't wait to get my full thoughts down on paper.

I thought the same. And I believe the TE/RB/WR booking will be key to springing an explosive running game this year. The OL isn't agile enough to handle some of the Elite Front Seven groups they'll face. They're going to need help.

Very good article David. As was the quick synopsis after the game. I've been looking for the vertical game since we took down the Buckeyes in Eugene. Not to mention that is Moore's most decisive throw. He releases that ball well before he's pressured. I also believe the slots and TEs can force the safeties to pick their poison Did anyone see Merringer pull out Max Protection? He did call a very good game. My first impression of the game was " here we go". My second look was " oh we've got this in the bag". Sans mistakes the game was a sure blowout. Gotta give Boise credit- it was their Superbowl.

I usually agree. This time, it was AWESOME tackling... Both saved TDs in my opinion.

Great topic Solar!!! I have some thoughts I'll share soon. Still going over the tape. I see improvement, and I see similarities two years past. This is going to be an interesting season.

These are the EXACT GAMES I WANT SCHEDULED. We are looking at what ourteam is all about-right now. I love it.

One other thing-I prefer 11 P4 teams. Ten for the lower tier P4 schools. It is time to vet the P4 beginning to end. Not after they get their feet wet with "preseason" games (unless they simply don't count those P4/G6 games in the record books-let's just call them pre-season games like we already know they are). Padding records in the Playoff era leaves a bad taste in my mouth.

If we want to preserve the old system it would look like this: 1) SEC gets to pay under the table. They attack anyone that does the same. UGA and Bama smoke everybody-especially their conference brethren. Every once in awhile, an LSU or Florida will arrive and steal the show. In the B1G, Ohio State keeps pace, but more sneaky. They pay players too, and blame Michigan for cheating when they lose. Since Chip blurred the lines and got caught, Phil and the Oregon Athletic Department have found every legal method to field a $75 Million team. USC is on their way to that very blueprint. Since NIL has arrived, players want to play so the corn fed Southern boys have sprinkled the nation with the depth they used to provide to Bama and Georgia (Ohio State, Michigan and Oregon). Kurt Cignetti one-upped everyone with outstanding scouting, and player development. Everybody is looking for proven experience now. The smart lower tier 4 star players are going to find the best G6 coaches and display their talents. Alas, Trinidad Chambliss-though going to a sister of the poor level school, balled out and proved Cignetti was on to something and NFL level scouting is now a priority at the P4 and G6 level. Parity is destroying the SEC's narrative. Within 2 seasons we will not see 7 SEC teams in the preseason Top 15. Furthermore, I believe fans are already getting used to the fact teams will have a much more difficult time winning 11 or 12 games-including bowl and playoff season. The argument for keeping the playoff at 12 is best for keeping any semblance of the old days. Choosing the field of 12 preserves the "my team is better than your team, so my school got robbed and your team is garbage" sentiment that has been a part of college football since us old geezers were in grade school. The argument for expanding to 24 teams and grabbing hundreds of millions of dollars makes much more sense for two reasons: 1) coaches will keep their jobs longer (great for continuity) as long as they reach the playoffs every 2-3 years and 2) it will completely confirm or destroy the SEC mantra they are the best conference in college football. They will usually field 6 teams, and those teams will have to produce results. What a 24 team playoff will do is bury the past. I believe NIL pretty much started digging the grave sites. Players were always preparing like pros without the money they get now. About half take school seriously enough to get a degree that will help them when they leave school. The elite players are mostly semi pro NFL prospects anyway. We all wanted to ignore this because it maintained an integrity we wanted to pretend was there. Believe me, I started college in 1980. I knew several players from UW and Oregon. They trained, practiced, lifted, studied the game, and spent 30 hours a week on FOOTBALL. Some complained loudly about scholarships being insufficient compensation for their time. Not to mention the stars never receiving money for jersey sales (and Ohio State's controversy over the same issue). Do I like NIL? No. Not the way it is structured. The schools are acting as silly as NFL owners and paying unproven kids gobs of money they should earn once they prove themselves. I hope NIL contracts are structured year to year now. But what I really despise is how kids are being exploited worse than when they weren't getting paid. Thousands of kids hit the portal every year and at least half are finding out they are about as valuable as a 7-11 clerk. And there goes their careers. Simply because they thought the grass was greener. And don't get me started on paying some QBs more than a million dollars. I'd say there are about 30 QBs close to or worth more-but I'm a hack wanna be coach. So who am I to judge. The playoffs should expand if they don't find a way to force the committee to be consistent, and at least appear to not cave to the networks for ratings sake. Miami and Notre Dame should have both been playing Tulane, Bama, Texas and JMU instead of having to hear from ND fans they got robbed-especially after Notre Dame gave up 41 points to no offense A&M. The Playoff Committee is a bane to society as far as I'm concerned. A 24 team playoff would rid us of their services. Justifiably. I prefer 12 with Play In Games. I doubt we get that.

As usual Jon, you add depth and prompt interest by giving background to these games. Are we not entertained? The juices are flowing, only ten days before we open the season (there's a snarky BSU fan that tries to troll me after Ashton Gentry kept that 24' thriller too close for comfort. I told him BSU might have the winning record now, but since BYU went to the Big 12, BSU has been an afterthought. And now, we are finally looking at the first blowout in this series for our beloved Ducks. I can't wait to drool over that blowout win and troll this guy all the way to Antarctica). Ducks 45-24

Thanks Jon for completing so much research for us. The teams we face are quite manageable at face value. What will be difficult is the travel. OBD face the last six teams on the schedule alternating between Eugene and at least 2,000 miles east. So facing Ohio State begins with travel to Champagne, IL and coming back to Eugene to face Northwestern. Then we go to Columbus (we-ha ha ha) before coming home to face Michigan in Eugene the following week. Next "we" go to East Lansing to face Michigan State before coming home to vanquish the Fuskies. That is a Lot of travel. We do get the benefit of facing Portland State after traveling to North Texas' new home in Stillwater, Oklahoma, then traveling to LA to vanquish the Condoms (boy it is fun nicknaming our West Coast "rivals"!). So the schedule is tougher due to the amount of travel "we" face. This is where in Dan We Trust is essential...

Beating the best in this era means beating your best as well. Kirby has struggled now that the field is equal. Saban left before he had to taste it multiple years. That doesn't mean they wouldn't ever raise a trophy. Both those coaches are masters of the game. There are only 4 active coaches that have won a title and have a shot at getting another this year. Let's just take the Power 4 teams. That's 4 out of 68? Let's dig deeper and include only those programs that really test the best. What? Maybe 15? That's roughly 25 percent of the field. You know, the usual statistics (20% of the field produces 80% of the performance). I personally believe the OL that was good enough to win a title was Lanning's first. He had a mediocre defense and nowhere near the WRs he has now. That OL unit put some serious rush yards on one of the best college football's defenses of all time. They pass protected even better. They didn't have guys that could burn teams like Ohio State (circa 2024) and Georgia (circa 2023 and 2022). They had em last year (not a good enough OL) and they have em this year (we'll have to wait and see). So what Lanning has done with the limitations he has had relative to his fellow elite coaches is tremendous. I still believe Ohio State and Georgia have the most talent THIS YEAR. So it will be Dante Moore playing like elite NFL QBs this year in my opinion. He is going to have to throw in some of the tightest windows-on time-before receivers even know they are open. And some of that will be coaching on a level above the NFL's best. My opinion of course. But that is what I see. And believe me-what Dan Lanning has done the past two years with talent I did not believe was capable of accomplishing what they did (to the degree I really thought they had a chance in the Peach Bowl despite the situation) is beyond incredible. They guy is on the trail to winning a title. And I am not fantasizing when I say that.

I also do not believe blame is the correct word (great click bait though-no shade against you-it naturally piques our curiosity). I will always support Dan Lanning. Despite my "distaste" for some of the strategy moves I have seen. I have done quite a bit of study about OBD and other elite teams. There are some very justifiable reasons for what Lanning has schemed. There also are legitimate reasons for staying the course. It is VERY, VERY difficult to adjust to conditions on the ground in a game. Some may even accuse coaches of panicking if they do so- a coach "can't win" no matter what he does-fans are fickle. Which is why I loved it when Lanning put on the FEBU shirt after taking down Ohio State in Eugene. We all want to see OBD win the big ones. I am very spoiled, because I want to see obliteration. Most especially against Ohio State's fan base. We got to USC and the Fuskies-Ohio State in particular is on my radar. Simply because that fan base is horrible. They excoriated Ryan Day despite the guy's effort (and results) to improve the program damn near every year. Not to mention their outright arrogance (we have it to, as well as way too many fan bases in college football). What does that have to do with where OBD are and who is to blame? There simply are too many variables for a coach to control. Indiana really put the pedal to the metal last year and they STILL almost lost their title. It would have been heartbreaking to see them lose had Carson Beck threw his pass 4 to 5 yards deeper. After all the dominance they displayed, and their uncanny ability to execute so well under pressure all year. An illegal procedure penalty and a defensive penalty almost cost Indiana a title. Two simple mistakes almost tanked one of the most unbelievable stories ever. So what Lanning got blown out twice. Do you think he is contemplating his own blowouts? Do you think he is thinking outside the box to get his title(2)? And guess what-if we were in his shoes-oh boy guess how much nonsense we would have to put up with. I knew Casey Brooks-Rich Brooks' daughter. She used to tell me many a horror story of what fans put her and her father through. Brooks kept on chuggin and pluggin. Which is exactly what Lanning will do. I BELIEVE LANNING BRINGS US A TITLE. He is too smart, too determined and too dedicated to furthering the goals of everyone in his program. Those are ingredients that lend to the ultimate success. Sometimes you gotta lose to learn how to win.

That's not aimed at you LogHaulin. I am referring to the fact too many Oregon fans have buried just how dominant USC was till the SEC made sure the Reggie Bush issue was something only they could get away with. Pete Carrol's teams were out of reach for us-and we were assembling a great deal of talent. And quite frankly, we have never fielded a team with that kind of talent. Ever. USC is still the standard for what a West Coast Power should truly look like. The Fuskies couldn't have defeated Carroll's team with ANY of their elite teams. Not a single one. So in this guy's eyes, all the talk about USC being a joke is hotty totty New Money acting like the Rockefellers never graced the earth. Until we put teams like that 2003 to 2005 group on the field, we are just snowflakes in a blizzard. In my opinion, USC deserves some of that arrogance. Especially since nobody on the West Coast has etched themselves in history like that very era has.

I don't want anyone to take what I am about to say as "shade" or criticism of their respective position on their opinions. So here it goes. I feel we are downplaying just how much of a rival we actually are to USC and vice versa. I can definitely say the next time we lose to USC, massive dread will follow that loss because we ALL foresee what the may mean long term. The last time USC was "relevant" they not only dominated us, it took the SEC taking them down for us to truly gain a foothold on becoming the West Coast's powerhouse. I see a lot of "taking USC for granted" in the Oregon fanbase that I consider misguided. We all want Lincoln Riley to remain the HC in LA. What does that tell you? We don't want real threats to our claim to pre-eminence is what it tells me. That smells like rivalry to me because we definitely know we will be fighting not only Ohio State and Indiana, but we will have a dogfight on our hands for talent should USC even sniff a 10-2 record on a regular basis. We will have sleepless nights because we absolutely know USC is far more a threat to us than the Fuskies would be (as recent history has shown). I also recall a great amount of nervousness last fall during the game because USC wasn't folding like a good "non rival" should. We wanted to attribute it to lack of execution, and sure, the refs sure helped USC's WRs out too much. But USC forced OBD to take the game from them. And while we have dominated both the Fuskies and USC as of late-that means nothing whatsoever this year. USC is re-emerging. They are an imminent threat we pretend to brush off. That is exactly how a program loses its edge, and I am glad is only the fan base that doesn't take the Trojans seriously. In my opinion, whether we acknowledge it or not-USC is a rival. They are regularly taking recruits from us in California now. That is not a fluke. That will continue. And if one hasn't been paying attention, UCLA is also encroaching on our "backyard". Yes, USC is a rival. We just don't want the thought of what that actually means. We will need to win a title sometime in the next 3-5 years. If not, that so called "has been" is going to use that very handily to convince recruits we are a pretender. And we won't be laughing much about that.

It always helps Jon to read and assess the comments here. Glad you added filler to his experience. Though we got limited coverage in this year's Spring Game, I saw some things that concerned me. I highly doubt we are going to see the same elements of last year's defense. If so I do have some concerns as in my opinion there are natural flaws with the way we execute the Bear defense. I have done some research and discovered there are "rules" in place that govern how the defense is run, and why the elite teams are able to exploit those governing weaknesses. The rules also explain how OBD were able to stomp on lessor capable opponents that did have firepower (see Texas Tech for instance). Of course, I am not going to criticize Lanning for running what he wants to run-not only has he been successful, he deserves that right because he runs the ship. If he is going to go down, he deserves the blessings of running it the way he wants to. It will not stop me from expressing concerns about possible flaws or weaknesses. Which of course DOES NOT MEAN I AM CORRECT. For me, Koi is going to need very good closing speed to cover the amount of area the defense and defensive strategy requires. Thieneman had trouble with that at times, but he was an absolute ball hawk. His instincts were spot on. Koi will need those same instincts.

I am not sold on him. He has huge shoes to replace as a transfer at safety and I'm not sure he is a clutch a player. So I'm not taking it easy on him unless he is a level above Thieneman. I don't think he has the same kind of closing speed or ball hawk skills. We will see what happens.

Scott, you're the go to since FishDuck's ( now discussOBD Duck) site is the WWII bomb crater it currently is. Your site is excellent, and I haven't seen any Duck centric site come close to your editorial skills. I hope to see you early and OFTEN.